Scam targeting Avon Representative

[Shamfien]

This is a scam using stolen credit card information.
The scammer contacts Avon Reps (among other companies) and places a large order:

Good Day Samantha.

My name is Marcus manager of Marcus&Sons Group Of Companies.I want to buy some Avon Fragrances for my workers and partners as a gifts for their dedication for working hard and will like to know if you could assist me do this as i am a busy person.

These are the fragrances i will like to purchase.

His Story Eau De Toilette Spray :-50 bottles

U by Ungaro for Him Eau de Toilette Spray :-50 bottles

Iron man® Eau DE Toilette Spray :-50 bottles.

I will appreciate it if you can give me the total cost for the fragrances i want to purchase,i will do
the payment in full with my secure credit card,Kindly get back to on this ASAP.Hope to read your mail soon.


Marcus

The scammer then pays with a stolen credit card.
The goods are shipped to a post office box (or similar) where the scammer instructs a shipping company (DHL,UPS etc) to pick up the goods and send to Nigeria

[full auto]

Very interesting, can you produce headers for that email? I'm curious as to what IP range that is coming out of.

Also, it would appear that they have a mule in the USA for shipping out goods. It's a very common trick, and scammers have been known to use stolen credit cards to order goods and then ship them back to their country (almost happened to a stationers business a member of my family works for when the Nigerian scammer wanted computer supplies). As of why he wants beauty supplies, perhaps for resell, or other reseaons. Either way if anyone has any information about the address in the USA they are shipping to I would be most interested in seeing that publicly displayed. Perhaps they can either warn the mule or arrest an accomplice.

[credendovides]

The Latest One I've Gotten: you'll notice it is almost identical except for product to the one that follows it.

Hello Sister,
Thanks for your response and I really appreciate it , My name is Linda Betty. I am a retail buyer and I am deaf and also a single mother of 3 kids who lost her husband in a car accident a couple of month ago . I was introduced to Avon Some weeks ago and I got your sales and contact from Avon and I will be more happy to have you as my Avon Rep ..And I would like to purchase this Items with you on a dealership and not with the company cos I am new on computer and I don't operate credit card that is why am dealing direct with you and I will appreciate if I can order this Product through you once you have the funds from me for the product . All the product I want to order from you is my first order this year . I will want you to get back to me with the total cost of the listed item i want to order from you

4 Quantity of Clearskin® Cleansing Pads 037-710
5 Quantity of ANEW ULTIMATE Age Repair Cream Cleanser 998-857
3 Quantity of ANEW Daily Resurfacing Cleanser 426-374
5 Quantity of Casual Faceted Blue Collar Necklace Gift Set 080-597
4 Quantity of ANEW CLINICAL Advanced Wrinkle Corrector 286-989
4Quantity of Ageless Results Renewing Day Cream SPF 15 587-243
5 Quantity of ANEW ALTERNATIVE Intensive Age Treatment SPF 25 Day AM 877-657

Please kindly let me know if there is any discount you want to give me on my first order, and also you don't need to worry about the shipping and the pick up of the order from your location that will be handle through my Shipper after you have receive the funds for the order I await your response asap

Thanks a lot
Linda Betty.

This was actually the first one I ever got and I almost fell for it...Thank God for the neighboring districts manager, we met her at a sales meeting and asked her about ordering in bulk and she made us aware of the scams, you see the similarity to the one I received today.


Hello ,
Thanks for your response and I really appreciate it , My name is Linda smith, I am a retail buyer .... I was introduced to Avon Some Months ago and I got your sales and contact from Avon and I would like to purchase this Items from you on a dealership and not with the company cos I am new on computer and I don't operate with credit card, that is why I am dealing directly with you and I will appreciate if I can order this Product through you once you have the funds from me for the product .. All the product I want to order from you is my first order this year .. I will want you to get back to me with the total cost of the listed item and your name and address where I can send the payment to:

5 ANEW REVERSALIST Illuminating Eye System 245-213

5 ANEW REVERSALIST Night Renewal Cream 241-241

5 ANEW REVERSALIST Day Renewal Cream SPF 25. 247-307

5 ANEW REVERSALIST Renewal Serum 338-247

5 ANEW REVERSALIST Day Renewal Cream SPF 25 Try-It Size - .5 fl. oz. 319-000


kindly let me know if there is any discount you want to give me on my first order, and also you don't need to worry about the shipping and the pick up of the order from your location that will be handled through my Shipper after you have received the funds for the order....

Thanks a lot

God Bless you.

Linda


In this next one, I was already aware of the scams and just for the heck of it googled this guys name..."Gordon Feinblatt" is the name of a Law Practice in New York (not a person) that has ties with AVON's WALK FOR A CURE. This guy did his research and it irks me. I notified the law practice of the misuse of their name. I told the guy I would need an address and phone number so that i could call to discuss his order and it scared him off.

Hello i am Gordon Feinblatt, i found Avon catalog in a friends car i as wondering what i will use to invite friends and workers to my upcoming wedding ceremony when i came by this catalog i will like to buy the following product from you for my co-workers as an invitation to my up coming wedding ceremony the product i want to buy are below :...


Gold iPod Shuffle
849-199 Qty 20 pieces


Patrick Dempsey Eau de Toilette Spray Qty 30



I will like you to get back to me with the total cost of the product and i will do the payment in full with my secure credit card let me know if you have the items instock or are you going to order them ? let me know .....Gordon


Don't let these people get over on you! We work to hard and put too much time money and effort into building or businesses to let these fools shut us down. Keep your eyes open and your chins up!

[jeeplassie]

I am an avon rep, and I have been getting fraudulent emails about once a week for the past several weeks. One lady even wrote me twice, with the same information. None of them were from other countries, but they all tell me they need my information to send me a money order. They do not allow po boxes. I wrote one lady back and asked her why she can't accept a po box, and she told me it was because Fed Ex does not deliver to po boxes. I told her to use the USPS. I haven't heard back.
Another woman gave me an address, and when googled it ended up being a kaiser hospital.

In all the emails, I do write them back and explain that I will not order any products until the money I receive from them (at my po box) clears. I don't hear back from them after that, usually, unless they forgot they already tried to get me and write me again all brand new.

I have some of the emails saved. I am wondering if there is something I can do legally to catch these idiots? Isn't there a way they can catch them from the information in the headers? What are the legal recourses here? I don't want to just ignore them, I want to prosecute them....

Thank you for your response, I am freelance model . I am coming down to your area for a photo shoot and I would need you to get these items for me:
FRAGRANCE
Bond Girl 007...............(2)
ANEW ULTIMATE Age Repair Elixir.............................(2)
MAKEUP
Super shock Mascara black........(2)
Do let me know the total cost plus the necessary tax I am to pay on it. I would need to know the total of all the products I requested and also the name and address you want the payment sent to and also a phone number I can reach you on. After you send me this information I would instruct my sponsors to send you the payment which would be in form of money orders or certified check which you can cash instantly at your bank .Please get back to me as soon as possible so I can continue with the purchase, I would be in around soon so I would pick up the items in person but I want you to have the funds in advance, so send me the quotations and details needed to send you payment. Thank you and enjoy the rest of your day.
Thanks for your time
Cheers

Johnson Mark



now i did get the full headers and the originating IP was from nigeria.

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I'm an Avon Representative in Upstate NY. I received the below email from a "Susan Smith" who is also a "retail buyer and is a deaf single mother of two kids." The tip off for me, was when "she" stated that she "didn't want to deal with the company" and I would "receive the funds as a cashiers check or money order". Something just was not right about this; and the bells were ringing loudly. I remembered the email my District Manager had sent about the scams and was very glad that I had kept the information on hand. I will be forwarding my "large order" to Avon so they can monitor this issue.

[layylayy]

Thank you for your response, I'm the manager of a freelance model group from Manchester, New Hampshire. But we are coming down to your Louisiana for a photo shoot and I would need you to get these items for me:


AVON WELLNESS:
PLANET SPA African Shea Butter Moisture Body Mask .....(2) 259197
Sensuality Fragrance by liiv botanicals..............................(2) 251913


BATH & BODY:
Foot Works Lavender Clay Mask ........................................(2) 074872
Foot Works Lavender Comfort Foot Soak ..........................(1) 305777


SKIN CARE:
ANEW CLINICAL Instant Face Lift ....................................(1) 607755
ANEW CLINICAL Expression Line Filler ...........................(1) 039636


FRAGRANCE:
Timeless Cologne Spray .....................................................(1) 011626
BOND GIRL 007™ FOREVER ..............................................(2) 215651


MAKE UP:
Super shock Mascara (brown color) .................................(2) 455509
Precision Glimmer Powder Eyeshadow(Goldish-DUNE)..(2) 242468


I will like to know the total cost plus the necessary tax I am to pay on this items I listed and also the name and address you want the payment sent to and also your phone number to reach you on. After you send me this information I would instruct my sponsors to send you the payment which would be in form of money orders or certified check which you can cash instantly at your bank. Please get back to me as soon as possible so I can continue with the purchase, We would be in Louisiana soon so we would pick up the items in person but I want you to have the funds in advance, so send me the quotations and details needed to send you payment.


Thanks and God bless.
Kelly Smith.









Hey Lacey, there is a big mistake in the payment mail to you...... I am emailing you to let you know that your payment has been sent out and would arrive via courier service within the next 96hrs, I also want you to know that the amount which was sent to you by the sponsor is more than your asking price because they mistakenly sent our traveling fees along with the money for our expenses, so I would also let you know the name and address which you would remit the rest of the funds to, I hope I can trust you with the rest of the funds for our flight ticket because people can be really funny nowadays .


Please let me know as soon as you get this email...


Thanks and God bless for your understanding.
Kelly Smith.




THESE PEOPLE SENT ME 2 DIFFERENT EMAILS...THE EMAIL ADDRESSES HAD A DIFFERENT NUMBER AT THE END...THEY BOTH STATED TO SAME THING...THEN I HEAR TODAY THAT ON FOX NEWS THEY SAID PEOPLE ARE ORDERING THINGS FROM COMAPNIES AND PAYING THEM WAY TO MUCH...WHEN YOU CASH THE CHECK IT WILL BOUNCE AND YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY ALL THAT MONEY BACK. I ASKED FOR A TRACKING NUMBER AND A PHONE NUMBER AND I NEVER GOT A REPLY!!!!!!!!!

This is the email that i had gotten from someone and it was a fraud.

Hello,
Good to hear from you.My name is Laurie McGinnis,I am from Wiscosin but will be coming to your state for an upcomming event.Woul have prefered to order online but for now all purchases in our company are done

with paper payment so i would love you to place the order for me.

Below is the list of items needed:

FRAGRANCE
Simple Elements Meadow Dew Eau de Toilette Splash...............(2)
In Bloom(Resse Witherspoon)........................................(1)
Petal by Cynthia Rowley Eau de Toilette Spray.....................(1)
Bond Girl 007........................................................( 1)

MAKEUP
ANEW Youth-Awakening Lipstick....................................(2)Sunset Pink
ANEW Wrinkle Zone Line Smoothing Duo...........................(1)Medium
12-in-1 Eye Palette & SuperCurlacious Mascara
Duo................(1)Navy or black

I would need to know the total of all the products i requested for and also the name and address you want the payment sent to and also a phone number i can reach you on.After you send me this information
the organizer of the event will mail you a check or money order for the payment,which you can cash instantly at your bank because we need these items there in before the date of the event and they will be picked up

at your location Upon my Arrival ...I hope to read from you soon with all the required details.And if you have more questions call me on 806 291 7476

Thank you and enjoy your day.
Cole.Wendy
(Assistant Personnel Manager)
EKAN MODEL MANAGEMENT

[Inspired1]

To anyone who has received a letter from one Laurie McGinnis, don't fall for it.
This is someone trying to rip you off. I am an AVON agent and this is not the first time I received an email of this kind. I replied by saying if you are in Wisconsin I would think that AVON would have given you contact information for a Representative in your area. Why are you contacting me and I am in New York. I also let this person know that I do not do business the way that they were asking. I replied that if you wish to place an order do it through my website. Recently I have been getting these types of emails also most on a daily basis. There has to be a way to put a stop to this and apprehend the individuals behind these scams.

Just wanted to add my scammer to the list, seems like the EKAN Model Management has been busy.

"Hello,
Good to hear from you.My name is Laurie McGinnis,I am from Wiscosin but will be coming to your state for an upcomming event.Woul have prefered to order online but for now all purchases in our company are done with paper payment so i would love you to place the order for me.

Below is the list of items needed:

FRAGRANCE
Simple Elements Meadow Dew Eau de Toilette Splash...............(2)
In Bloom(Resse Witherspoon)........................................(1)
Petal by Cynthia Rowley Eau de Toilette Spray.....................(1)
Bond Girl 007........................................................( 1)

MAKEUP
ANEW Youth-Awakening Lipstick....................................(2)Sunset Pink
ANEW Wrinkle Zone Line Smoothing Duo...........................(1)Medium
12-in-1 Eye Palette & SuperCurlacious Mascara
Duo................(1)Navy or black

I would need to know the total of all the products i requested for and also the name and address you want the payment sent to and also a phone number i can reach you on.After you send me this information
the organizer of the event will mail you a check or money order for the payment,which you can cash instantly at your bank because we need these items there in before the date of the event and they will be picked up at your location Upon my Arrival ...I hope to read from you soon with all the required details.And if you have more questions call me on 806 291 7476

Thank you and enjoy your day.
Joy . Amy
(Assistant Personnel Manager)
EKAN MODEL MANAGEMENT "

I'm a legitimate Avon representative. I've received several spam requests. They are very easy to spot (poor grammar, requests for products out of the current campaign), not to mention I'm mistrusting of anyone who doesn't tell me who they are or how they know me or got my information.

I immediately reply to them that they can order directly online from my site or send me the information. I also tell them the information I need to place the order. I also tell them I need 50% payment up front, or as I did with one person after they said they would pay me after I send them the products, told them the process is that I deliver directly to them and they pay upon receipt.

After giving these idiots that information I generally do not hear from them again.

[Shari49]

Hi, I am an Avon representative who received the nearly identical e-mails from someone wanting to buy Avon Products.

"Hello ,
Thanks for your response and I really appreciate it , My name is susan joseph, I am a retail buyer .... I was introduced to Avon Some Months ago and I got your sales and contact from Avon and I would like to purchase this Items from you on a dealership and not with the company cos I am new on computer and I don't operate with credit card, that is why I am dealing directly with you and I will appreciate if I can order this Product through you once you have the funds from me for the product .. All the product I want to order from you is my first order this year .. I will want you to get back to me with the total cost of the listed item and your name and address where I can send the payment to:

5 ANEW REJUVENATE Skin Revitalizing System
5 ADVANCE TECHNIQUES Frizz Control Lotus Shield Anti-Frizz Treatment
5 ANEW ULTIMATE Age Defying System

kindly let me know if there is any discount you want to give me on my first order, and also you don't need to worry about the shipping and the pick up of the order from your location that will be handled through my Shipper after you have received the funds for the order....

Thanks a lot
God Bless you.
susan"

Subsequent e-mails from Susan Joseph had instructions to send the overpayment via Western Union to a person in GA. For $960 worth of Avon, she sent a check for $2200. Supposedly this person in GA was going to pick up the Avon products from my house in Michigan once I sent the money. The check I received was from Louisiana in the name of a construction company.

I wish I'd caught on sooner than I did! Fortunately I never sent any money to anyone and have notified the company in Louisiana and their bank is on fraud alert.

Susan Joseph has been getting pushy about me getting back with her with the Western Union information. I got this from her yesterday:

"Hello Sis,
Okay i understand you,just make sure you are woman of your word....i will e waiting for the western union information's on Monday Morning before noon...

Happy Thanksgiving
Susan"

It wasn't until I did some searching and found the same e-mails on here that I really caught on that I was being scammed.
Thank you all for reporting your experiences!
Shari49

[ThatGrrl]

Hi folks,

At a guess, the perfumes/cosmetics etc will be put in boxes with handbags, chocolates, teddy bears etc etc etc and sent to romance scam victims. The purpose is twofold:

1. To woo the victim, obviously (what woman doesn't like getting gifts from a lover?) Victim is also more likely to pay up after being sent a whole load of stuff.
2. To use the victim as a fence for the stolen goods. Also possibly to test logistics processes to see how much stolen stuff gets through any particular channel. The scammers would them exploit the weakest one.

I am a new AVON representative, only in my second campaign and still trying to figure things out. Today I got a message on my AVON site from an Emmanuel Morrison that simply said "I want products" so I told them what that needed to do to order. And this is the email I got from "Emmanuel":

Hello,
How are you doing today?
I hope all is well with you,Please This is Emmanuel Morrison Representative's office of WFWO: I want to order 60 bottles of Haiku Eau de Parfum Spray (102-972) and 60 Bottles of Far Away Dreams Eau de Parfum Spray ( 893-436 ) I am purchase this Product for my Co worker's and friends as invitation Gift to my Up coming wedding ceremony. I am on a trip now to Virginia for the mean time. I will like you to handle the order for me as your personal order for me, I got your info from meet mark searching for reps and I decided to choose you out of them as my rep. Please get back to me asap with the grand total so I can provide you with my credit card information for you to run for the approval code and as soon as you receive my Order at you end, I will make the shipping arrangement with USPS Shipping Label myself...Hope you can help me out with this. Looking forward to hear from you soon thanks.

Emmanuel.


I was so confused and trying to construct an email back on how I can not do what this person wants but trying to help them figure out how they can do it. I decided to use google and found this website. I can't tell you how ****ed of I am!!!!

[Infidel]

These scammers have done this with other folks too ,Craiglist ect ....I myself was selling a Item ,and they were willing to pay extra Ca$h for the Item with a Fake Postal Money Order . They Have Have Money Orders from Western Union ,Money Gram also . So Be alert Cause they will even do it for Apt rentals ,Car sales or what ever they can get their hands on .

[Shari49]

What is scary to me is the check I received for $2200 was real! The bank put a stop payment on it, but it makes me wonder if there was an inside job either with the bank or the construction company in Louisiana. I don't understand how they get away with this. If I had done what I was asked by these scammers, I would have been out $2200 of my own money! Like I can afford that.
Surely there is a way to stop these people.

Right after this group of e-mails from Susan Joseph, I got another one from someone else claiming to be in Wisconsin. I just ignored that one. I'm smarter now. :-)

[Dodobird]

Originally Posted by Shari49

Surely there is a way to stop these people.

The only way is for people like you to take the time to report these to your local authorities.

I am so glad I call my Avon Upline lady this morning and she told me, there is a lot of scammers that are trying to scam Avon Representatives, so here is the email I received today.

( Hello ,

Thanks for your response and I really appreciate it , My name is Joy Williams, I am a retail buyer .... I was introduced to Avon Some Months ago and I got your sales and contact from Avon and I would like to purchase this Items from you on a dealership and not with the company cos I am new on computer and I don't operate with credit card, that is why I am dealing directly with you and I will appreciate if I can order this Product through you once you have the funds from me for the product .. All the product I want to order from you is my first order this year .. I will want you to get back to me with the total cost of the listed item and your name and address where I can send the payment to:

3 ANEW REVERSALIST Illuminating Eye System 245-213

3 ANEW REVERSALIST Day Renewal Cream SPF 25. 247-307

2 ANEW REVERSALIST Renewal Serum 338-247

3 ANEW REVERSALIST Day Renewal Cream SPF 25 Try-It Size - .5 fl. oz. 319-000


kindly let me know if there is any discount you want to give me on my first order, and also you don't need to worry about the shipping and the pick up of the order from your location that will be handled through my Shipper after you have received the funds for the order....

Thanks a lot)

I received the following emails and figured it was a scam right off from all of the websites I've been seeing with information on it. I think I will share this one so that people can watch out for this person as well:

Email #1

Hello Owner,

My Name is Mr. Micheal Whitley and I'm inquiring about an order of some Hair care . skin care.Body Oil and some soap product here is some few types i will like you to quote me for each.


Flower Garden Soap
Lavender Soap
Citrus Verbena Shower Gel 250 ml
Shea Butter Extra Gentle Soap - Milk 250 g
Citrus Verbena Daily Use Shampoo 250 ml
Aromachology Soothing Shampoo 300 ml
Ultra Rich Conditioner 200 ml
Shea Butter Hand Cream 150 ml
Lavender Shea Butter Liquid Soap 500 ml
Cherry Blossom Shimmering Lotion 250 ml
Amyris Essential Oil 1 fl oz
Lemon essential oil 15ml
Cedarwood essential 15ml
ylang ylang essential oil15ml
pure Lavender essential oil 15ml
Jojoba Essential oil 11ml
Carrot Seed Essential 100Oil
Lemongrass Essential Oil 50ml

Please can you email me back With the price on each of the Products listed also if you do not have this types you can also email me back with the types you carry and the sizes along with Price you do have in stock with some pricing and also include your direct website where i can view all those that you do have in stock.Also let me know if you do take a surcharge when accepting either master cards or visa.Hope to hear from you soon.



Note : Send me an email for all information .

Kindest Regards......
Mr.Micheal Whitley .....


Email #2
Thank you very much for the email back. I will like you to please email me back with the total cost for the below items include tax and excluding delivery also let me know how long you can get this ready for me .

Shea Butter Hand Cream 150ml $1.99 .......... Qty = 100
Cherry Blossom Shimmering Lotion 250ml $7.00 .......... Qty = 50
Bubble Bath 24 fl. oz. $8.00 .......... Qty = 100
Volume Shampoo 11.8 fl. oz $6 .......... Qty = 100
ANEW CLINICAL Thermafirm Face Lifting Cream 1 fl. oz. $22.00 .......... Qty = 50

Can i know which types of Credit cards you take as for payment ?

Mr. Micheal Whitley

I received an almost identical email today in response to my reply to their "contact me" request. The items he "ordered" were different, but otherwise the email was identical!
It's definitely frustrating as a new Rep. (I'm in my 3rd campaign) to have to deal with this when you are trying to learn everything else. If this is as common as it seems to be from all of the posts here, can't AVON do anything to prevent this kind of thing (like have a security measure like this site does)?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am a new AVON representative, only in my second campaign and still trying to figure things out. Today I got a message on my AVON site from an Emmanuel Morrison that simply said "I want products" so I told them what that needed to do to order. And this is the email I got from "Emmanuel":

Hello,
How are you doing today?
I hope all is well with you,Please This is Emmanuel Morrison Representative's office of WFWO: I want to order 60 bottles of Haiku Eau de Parfum Spray (102-972) and 60 Bottles of Far Away Dreams Eau de Parfum Spray ( 893-436 ) I am purchase this Product for my Co worker's and friends as invitation Gift to my Up coming wedding ceremony. I am on a trip now to Virginia for the mean time. I will like you to handle the order for me as your personal order for me, I got your info from meet mark searching for reps and I decided to choose you out of them as my rep. Please get back to me asap with the grand total so I can provide you with my credit card information for you to run for the approval code and as soon as you receive my Order at you end, I will make the shipping arrangement with USPS Shipping Label myself...Hope you can help me out with this. Looking forward to hear from you soon thanks.

Emmanuel.


I was so confused and trying to construct an email back on how I can not do what this person wants but trying to help them figure out how they can do it. I decided to use google and found this website. I can't tell you how ****ed of I am!!!!