cctrue / busizone.com is it a scam?? Yes.

[mysteryquest]

Echoop. You lied about being in the United States where you are in China. You are not just posting your "experiences!" The owner of this "business" requested that you post complimentary comments. You claim to be seeking a franchise with him, so you are more concerned about burnishing his image that being truthful. How "can you face Scofield." We're not concerned that you were unsuccessful in "rehabilitating" Scofield. We are concerned about people being victimized by a potential scam, not your personal agenda.

[Frau Chin]

[quote=mysteryquest;129174]Echoop... unsuccessful in "rehabilitating" Scofield.QUOTE]

I think it's more like "cohabitating" with Scofield when Echoop is now in China.

Wish I was here early... hihihi...

Originally Posted by mysteryquest

Echoop. You lied about being in the United States where you are in China. You are not just posting your "experiences!" The owner of this "business" requested that you post complimentary comments. You claim to be seeking a franchise with him, so you are more concerned about burnishing his image that being truthful. How "can you face Scofield." We're not concerned that you were unsuccessful in "rehabilitating" Scofield. We are concerned about people being victimized by a potential scam, not your personal agenda.

I'm in China, but I'm a American.
Your job helping other avoid falling in scam is great, but how can you sure it's a scam without real evidence?
As the administrator(I think you are) of fraudwatchers, please be more fair.
What's the real evidence?
Sorry to disturb.

[mysteryquest]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm in China, but I'm a American.
Your job helping other avoid falling in scam is great, but how can you sure it's a scam without real evidence?
As the administrator(I think you are) of fraudwatchers, please be more fair.
What's the real evidence?
Sorry to disturb.

echoop20xx, I will indulge you this one more time, though as we stated before, you are a shill, who lied about his location, was asked to post favorable comments by the "business" owner and claim to wish to enter into a franchise agreement with him.

Any business that only accepts money via Western Union/MoneyGram or Bank to Bank transfer is highly suspect because BOTH Western Union/MoneyGram state that their services SHOULD never be used to send money to a stranger. Once the money is sent, there is NO WAY to reverse the transaction even if there is fraud involved, in fact, there is no way to trace the transaction or even identify who picked it up, so the "business" is under no obligation to honor its commitments. Legitimate businesses do not only accept money via Western Union/MoneyGram and Bank to Bank transfer. Read: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/..._western_union

The bank account given by this "business" is in the name of an individual not in the name of the business. Real businesses have bank accounts in their name so customers are assured the money is going to them not some unnamed individual. That is something we warn people against. There is no legitimate reason not to have a bank account in the name of the business, but many illegitimate ones. However, we advise viewers of this forum not to pay for online purchases via Bank to Bank transfer as their are no consumer protections and once you send the money the bank will not reverse the transfer even if it was based on fraud. We also advise viewers of this forum to read these articles: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...pg=fw_buychina and http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...w_scammedchina

We don't wait to warn people of a scam until they are scammed. That would be useless, since, at that point, they wouldn't need the warning as they would have already found out from experience and have all the evidence they needed.

echoop20xx this will be your last post to this forum that will remain.

[SkyWest]

People will have there different opinions about products purchased in foreign countries (and in this case China). I was obviously a little skeptical at first but found Busizone to be VERY honest and upfront. I have purchased thousands of dollars from the website and I have had no problems. I would reccommend purchasing items at Busizone.

Those that bash or call busizone fraud, they have never purchased anything from this site. They are just stereotyping all purchases from China. Do your own due dillegence but in my many purchases I have not had a single problem!

[mysteryquest]

Well SkyWest. As far as I'm concerned, since you paid via Western Union/MoneyGram or Bank to Bank transfer, you're very fortunate you actually received the product you paid since you using a payment method that has no consumer protections, you could easily have been scammed, and I would certainly not recommend anyone else pay anybody via those methods. So the goods you received were original name brand products, not copies or knock offs or "grey market" goods?

[SkyWest]

I agree on the Western Union. It was a little naive. But I have been using Busizone now for almost 2 years now without problems.

As far as I know they are origionals. But I am not an expert in origionals or knock offs. Some items are better than others though but overall I think the items have been good.

I hope this helps.

[mysteryquest]

Well the business does not sell originals, only "copies", so that's what you received though you were apparently too "naive" to realize this. Hopefully, readers of this forum, will not be "naive" enough to make the same mistake you made by sending money via Western Union/MoneyGram or Bank to Bank transfer. See: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/..._western_union

[SkyWest]

Harsh, but fair. I agree, Western Union is not a sure deal. All I can say is busizone is not a scam, whether they use Western Union or not, they are not a scam. Mysteryquest, you are VERY anti Western Union, and I think that is great, I agree, but do not say busizone is a scam, because it is not.

Thank you for your honest and direct posts.

Originally Posted by SkyWest

do not say busizone is a scam, because it is not.

The definition of scam, fraud and CRIMINAL can cross-over, but let me make it perfectly clear to you SkyWest, and all the other doubters out there.

1. Any company selling 'copies' of any branded/unbranded product without a licence or permission IS A CRIMINAL!
   
2. Any person knowingly purchasing said counterfeit goods IS AIDING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY!

Lacoste is being sold on that counterfeit website...
LACOSTE™ Products - The Facts

[jeancrt]

Hi:
Ive been dealing with this company for 2 1/2 years and no problems with fraud so far. With this company you pay insurance; if something happens with the goods, they resend them again. Personally i recommend buying from This company.

I can share my experience; i can help any question regarding Busizone or Scofield .

[mysteryquest]

Originally Posted by jeancrt

Hi:
Ive been dealing with this company for 2 1/2 years and no problems with fraud so far. With this company you pay insurance; if something happens with the goods, they resend them again. Personally i recommend buying from This company.

I can share my experience; i can help any question regarding Busizone or Scofield .

I would not advice any visitor to this forum to patronize a company such as Busizone which sells copies, otherwise known as counterfeit or knockoffs of real goods and only accepts payment via Western Union/Money Gram and Bank to Bank transfer. If you do not get the merchandise you paid for, or it is different that would you ordered (which would happen if you expecting an original and you get a counterfeit instead), you will have no recourse whatsoever. You will be stuck with what you get if you get anything. There is no reason whatsoever to assume that risk. Read: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/..._western_union and http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...pg=fw_buychina and http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...w_scammedchina

SCAMMERS => busizone.com <= FRAUDSTERS

To those that attempt to justify the existence of busizone.com - let's look at their own words. I have highlighted the most important parts.

Company

We are a professional trading company that specializes in high quality apparels, clothing, bags, shoes, jewelry, sunglasses and watches and electronics with competitive price.

We are an international company, integrating sales, processing and outsourcing. Products we sell are all famous, in-style and fashionable in the USA, Europe, Canada, Japan and Korea.

The range of our products includes:
- T-shirts: A&F, Abercrombie & Fitch,Ed Hardy, Hollister
- Jeans&Pants: True Reli, Diesel, Rock&Republic, Dsquared ,7 for all mankind, Lev, etc.
- Jackets: Christian Audigier, G-Star,Belstaff, Burby,etc.
- Down Jackets/Outerdoor wear: Moncler, Canada Goose
- Jerseys
- Watches
- Sunglasses
- Jewelry: Tiff, Links of London,Thomas Sabo, Pandora,,etc.
- Personal Care: hair staighter
- Electronic: DVD, Movies, Software
- Others: Caps, Scarves, Belts, Ties, Bikinis, Bedsheet, etc.

Customer the Highest, Quality First

We have accumulated abundant experience and established stable and credible business relationships with customers worldwide. With rich experience in dealing with all types of large and small orders, we have developed extensive contacts with many local and international freight organizations. Consequently, we are able to ship our goods safely and reliably almost anywhere in the world.

"Customer the Highest, Quality First" is the principle that our company always sticks to. The number one goal of us is to make sure that customers are always satisfied. All our company's staff regard "credit value, customer first" as standard, and customer satisfaction as rule. We are always trying to improve our site and relationship with customers. We welcome customers to negotiate business and establish long-term friendly cooperation relationships with us in the near future.

Our History

Since we launched our first service in 2005, the business has grown rapidly in terms of size and the geographical spread we serve.

Our main achievement has been maintaining the will and the means to learn from our users. By continuing our commitment to research and develop, we've been able to keep ahead in our industry.

At no point in this description does it mention that they sell 'copies' of official products. Everything on the website indicates that they are selling the GENUINE ARTICLE. Their main page contains the copyrighted logos of many fashion and brand names.

Thus, and to answer the point even more directly, they are liars, crooks, counterfeiters, criminals. The act of advertising ORIGINALS when in fact they are UNLICENSED COUNTERFEITS is a FRAUD!

Simple really.

SCAMMERS => busizone.com <= FRAUDSTERS

I'll also state this for the record. Anyone who is purchasing "thousands of dollars" worth of goods from these fraudsters is purchasing them for resale, not for personal use. This being the case, that person is also a CRIMINAL, and will I hope will sometime get what they deserve from the law enforcement agencies of their own country.

SCAMMERS => busizone.com <= FRAUDSTERS

[jeancrt]

Hi:

Is different being a scam than sell counterfeit. It is obvious that Busizone sells replicas, so if you order them you will get what you paid for; but you will get what you ordered. A company is a scam if you pay for something you do not receive or you are paying for something authentic and get a counterfeit item.

I think you are misunderstanding the topic of the discussion.

[jeancrt]

Originally Posted by Shuecraft

SCAMMERS => busizone.com <= FRAUDSTERS

To those that attempt to justify the existence of busizone.com - let's look at their own words. I have highlighted the most important parts.

Company

We are a professional trading company that specializes in high quality apparels, clothing, bags, shoes, jewelry, sunglasses and watches and electronics with competitive price.

We are an international company, integrating sales, processing and outsourcing. Products we sell are all famous, in-style and fashionable in the USA, Europe, Canada, Japan and Korea.

The range of our products includes:
- T-shirts: A&F, Abercrombie & Fitch,Ed Hardy, Hollister
- Jeans&Pants: True Reli, Diesel, Rock&Republic, Dsquared ,7 for all mankind, Lev, etc.
- Jackets: Christian Audigier, G-Star,Belstaff, Burby,etc.
- Down Jackets/Outerdoor wear: Moncler, Canada Goose
- Jerseys
- Watches
- Sunglasses
- Jewelry: Tiff, Links of London,Thomas Sabo, Pandora,,etc.
- Personal Care: hair staighter
- Electronic: DVD, Movies, Software
- Others: Caps, Scarves, Belts, Ties, Bikinis, Bedsheet, etc.

Customer the Highest, Quality First

We have accumulated abundant experience and established stable and credible business relationships with customers worldwide. With rich experience in dealing with all types of large and small orders, we have developed extensive contacts with many local and international freight organizations. Consequently, we are able to ship our goods safely and reliably almost anywhere in the world.

"Customer the Highest, Quality First" is the principle that our company always sticks to. The number one goal of us is to make sure that customers are always satisfied. All our company's staff regard "credit value, customer first" as standard, and customer satisfaction as rule. We are always trying to improve our site and relationship with customers. We welcome customers to negotiate business and establish long-term friendly cooperation relationships with us in the near future.

Our History

Since we launched our first service in 2005, the business has grown rapidly in terms of size and the geographical spread we serve.

Our main achievement has been maintaining the will and the means to learn from our users. By continuing our commitment to research and develop, we've been able to keep ahead in our industry.

At no point in this description does it mention that they sell 'copies' of official products. Everything on the website indicates that they are selling the GENUINE ARTICLE. Their main page contains the copyrighted logos of many fashion and brand names.

Thus, and to answer the point even more directly, they are liars, crooks, counterfeiters, criminals. The act of advertising ORIGINALS when in fact they are UNLICENSED COUNTERFEITS is a FRAUD!

Simple really.

SCAMMERS => busizone.com <= FRAUDSTERS

I'll also state this for the record. Anyone who is purchasing "thousands of dollars" worth of goods from these fraudsters is purchasing them for resale, not for personal use. This being the case, that person is also a CRIMINAL, and will I hope will sometime get what they deserve from the law enforcement agencies of their own country.

SCAMMERS => busizone.com <= FRAUDSTERS

Where in the world you get a $1200 handbag for $70, use your intelligence; people dont use the word counterfeit in any replica page.

[mysteryquest]

Originally Posted by jeancrt

Where in the world you get a $1200 handbag for $70, use your intelligence; people dont use the word counterfeit in any replica page.

It's counterfeit, not a replica. Look up the up the definition of counterfeit if you misunderstand the word. I'll do it for you: "made in imitation of something else with intent to deceive" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/counterfeit Intent to deceive. I assume I don't need to look up deceive for you.

Now, as has been pointed out, nowhere does it state on busizone's website that anything but the original is being sold so why would it be "obvious" that anything but an original was being sold?. In fact, the website goes out of its way to make it appear as if an original is being sold. That's deception. It's not up to the customer (or victim) to "use their intelligence." Its up to the business to clearly state what they are selling instead of lying about it. In fact, if an online business' website lies about something, then why would you trust anything it says? Another good reason not to use Western Union/MoneyGram or Bank to Bank transfer

So, why doesn't busizone.com simply state clearly that it is selling copies or replicas? Well because their are selling counterfeits with the intent to deceive. We, and many others, refer to that practice as a scam or a fraud. Surely, you have no problem with us making clear to those who "don't use their intelligence" that busizone.com is selling counterfeits. We're just offering a public service!

Originally Posted by jeancrt

It is obvious that Busizone sells replicas, so if you order them you will get what you paid for.

Originally Posted by jeancrt

people dont use the word counterfeit in any replica page.

If this is an attempt to justify the activities of a bunch of CRIMINALS at Busizone.com, then you are simply part of the problem. Please read the contents of this entire thread again, and take particular nore of the posting above made by Mysterquest.

SCAMMERS => busizone.com <= FRAUDSTERS

[RScott]

I had heard about this site from some associates. I decided to place a small order with this company. I have NEVER had so many issues with a company in my life! BEWARE of CCTRUE!! From the moment that I sent my money Western Union to them, they began giving me the run-around, and did so for weeks until they finally said that they had had my money all along. I was literally having to send an email a day to them for one issue or another that they were having with my order. When they finally shipped my items, and sent a tracking number I thought I could finally breathe a sigh of relief. That was NOT the case. I soon found that they had charged me for items that had not been shipped. When I alerted them to this, and proved my point by adding totals in my original invoice, I was sure that they would fix the problem, and send the items that were left out.

I was shocked, when instead I was called a fool, and blind... and then all communication from them completely stopped. I have yet to receive my original package which I ordered over a month ago, and now I am just out the money for the rest..(if not all if I don't get my packages).

I should have known!! Please take my advice, and don't send your money to these Chinese theives!!! I have done business with other companies in China, and have NEVER had these issues.

DO NOT ORDER FROM CCTRUE!!! They will steal your time, and your money!!

[mysteryquest]

Never send money via Western Union or MoneyGram to anyone you don't know. When you do, you can expect to be scammed. Read: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/..._western_union