Shirgem Import & Export Co., Ltd - Import/Export Contract "Guilin" Scam

[kangpass]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm sorry I should have clarified myself. My brother and I were contacted by successor international trade co ltd. They insisted ok us to pay a "sales expense" before they could sign any contract with us. Btw the CEO and president don't kno any English and the translator is z young woman named Lucy. They ordered a big amount of our products and now we ate here in china to sign the contract and hopefully open a market here. We met them at our hotel and had coffee with the CEO , president and Lucy. They claim to be a subsidiary of the Chinese govt. If anyone knows about this please reply soon

Please you can call local police at local number 110 to report those scammer.

[Dodobird]

Thank you Kangpass!

Thank you for your help, but unfortunately we are already in China and wasted our money and time but thank god we did not pay them anything. Any advice on what to do now?

[Dodobird]

Unregistered, please read Kangpass's last post.

[zindagirocks]

Yes, its xi'an shijia import & export. And the contact guy is wang xi fu. And yes mr wang used xazj006@yahoo.com.cn as his email id. He is a fraud. He has cheated me, i think u have read my story.

Originally Posted by kangpass

Are you talking about Xi'an Zhijia Import & Export Co., Ltd.?
(西安至佳贸易有限公司, 29-81782936, 29-81635332, 15291819332,
29-86188180, 15038210195, xazj007@163.com, xazj009@163.com,
xianzj02@163.com, xianzj03@163.com, xazj009@163.com,
xianzj018@163.com, xianzj04@163.com, xazj006@yahoo.cn,
aas901@yahoo.cn, aas900@yahoo.cn, aas902@yahoo.cn)

Originally Posted by zindagirocks

Yes, its xi'an shijia import & export. And the contact guy is wang xi fu. And yes mr wang used xazj006@yahoo.com.cn as his email id. He is a fraud. He has cheated me, i think u have read my story.

Hi there all
Having done business in China for over 10 years and never been cheated so far I would like to give you the following advice: If it sounds too good to be true it most probably is!

There are plenty of Chinese companies who do business seriously and plenty of honest Chinese people, I can promis you, non of them will ever ask you to pay 50% for notary fees or other legal fees.
Serious Chinese business people are generours and would never ask for some payment of this kind. Take my word for it.
ROBU

[evazhao]

Dear sir
my name is eva,come from china,I can confirm,they are cheater.Because there have not a notary fee in china.

Originally Posted by RobertB7

This is a fraudulent operation. They try to impress companies with big order volumes and they do a calculation of how much each company will spend to get to Haikou, a city far from everything. So you will spend at least US$ 3,000 in tickets, hotel and foods. So they want to cheat on you, so you should pay another US$ 3,000, because all operations that they calculated is around US$ 1 million, so they say there's a notarization fee. So they ask you for this money and they think nobody will come back to Haikou and spend another US$ 3 thousand. Their office is a garbage, the building lift is like a cargo lift, Mitsubishi, but with woods on the walls. I have been personally to the Haikou Notary Office and the Officers said: "No one knows this company and DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING WITH THEM". I said to Man Shani to go with me to the Notary Office, few blocks from the hotel and she was so angry and said: No, I'm not going, this is not the company procedure...They think we brazilians are stupid, as I can see other companies from Brazil has been contacted by them. So, Brazilian Companies, please do not lose your time and money. I lost with my air ticket, hotel, foods and of course my precious time. Also, I saw rats coming and going out inside the Hotel's Lobby and no one there is worried about it.

Please see pictures of the translator Jenny and in the back of it Man Shani.

Again: Don't pay anything to them!!!!!

[CAP]

We went in Haikou contacted by Mr. Li Qidong, Eternal Way International, all is a fraud!!!! They asked us to bring samples with us and pay Notarization fees and money gifts. As in all the cases, Li Qidong was always with a 20 years old girl who was his traslator. We visited the office of the company that was a garbage!!! He talked about a contract of 1 million in 1 year. In the office there were two gilrs more one of 23 years old and other woman of 40 years old. Also we knew the "General Manager" Mr. Zhang a man of 50 years old. Everything was very weird because they checked each sample but when we asked them about the exportation they even knew where was our country. Other red flag was when one of the girls started to ask us about the gifts and notarization fees... She said the all must be in cash!!! They were very insistent about the money so we knew that the business was no true. They took the samples but the next day we called them and asked them bring back all the samples. We said them that our layers were not agreed with all the procedure, I think this scared them a little bit. On the phone one of the girls tried to convence us to sign the contract and only give the gifts and that we could do the notarization in our country!!.

Finally, we got back our samples and they didn't have any dolar from us. But we espent the fly tickets, hotel, transport, food and time!! Be careful please because we know now that in Hong Kong is very easy to make a company as a legal one, but these people use it to do fraud business. Eternal Way International is a SILVER MEMBER!! in tradekey, but this not means that you can trust it.

Our company have offices in Canada and Ecuador in South America so be careful, because they maybe try to contact more companies in these countries!!!

[poirot]

They appear to have removed their web site www.hkthgj.com
From Google cache

Eternal Way International Enterprise Limited
Contact. Tel:0086-755-29630364. 0086-755-29634250. Fax:0086-755-29634211. E-Fax:0086-755-22635425. Online. hkthgj2010 · call me 1103910799

I see that the above company has a reference on this site, i have a contact who want to buy product but the contact numbers are different!!

Any comments!!
Best Regards

[kangpass]

Originally Posted by crayfish

I see that the above company has a reference on this site, i have a contact who want to buy product but the contact numbers are different!!

Any comments!!
Best Regards

It's nothing but a scammer.

[jeff4404]

Hi, Our company currently having enquiry on the rubber rail pad from Sichuan Hekai, does any one know this company? Below the detail:
Sichuan Hekai Import & Export Trading Co. Ltd
Contact person: Alan
Add: 259, Yipintianxia Street, Chengdu, Sichuan, 610036 China.
Any one know deal with this company? They order big volume with sales USD2.9Mil. Advise needed.

[Dodobird]

Jeff4404,

How did they come into contact with you? Is their order based on terms that are more favourable than the current market? Do they have a website, telephone number and email addresses?

[fraudcreditor]

yes, they can get you big.

http://joonshin-raymondkwong-jamessato-fraud.com/

This was yrs ago, and i have since learned: take no chances what so ever in international trade. Protective terms always. Never be at risk.

It seems that Kunming BeiZhao Trading Co. "earns" its money by collection of various charges and fees:

- for invitation letters for the Seller to visit China and sign the contract
- "notarization fee"
- "bank charges" for payment transfer, etc.

The goods they are going to "purchase" and the contract sum plays absolutely no role for them.

[Aebleskiver]

2011 05 23 - Received questionable inquiry from:

Helen
Xi’an, Bo Zhou Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd
NO.218 Feng Qing Road
Xi’an City, Shaan Xi Province 710000
China
eMail: zhiyuan006@vip.163.com
Tel: +86 (29) 81283590
Fax: +86 (4006) 761 056
Mob: +86 15991949961

She? asked for pricing, specs, dealer discounts, warranties, terms, incoterms, and a list of all our Chinese Customers.
Thanks to your site, I didn't step into that slough.

[giulanvi]

Hi everybody.
This forum has been very helpful to me.

I have been recently approached by this company:

Nan Jing XiangFa IMPORT&EXPORT CO, LTD
Tel: +86-25-58785542
Fax: +86-25-58785384
E-mail: qiangsen166@yeah.net
Address :No. 151 Han Zhong Road ,Nan Jing city ,Province ,China



Is anybody else doing business with them?
I think they are not serious.

thanks.
Giulanvi

[kangpass]

Originally Posted by giulanvi

Hi everybody.
This forum has been very helpful to me.

I have been recently approached by this company:

Nan Jing XiangFa IMPORT&EXPORT CO, LTD
Tel: +86-25-58785542
Fax: +86-25-58785384
E-mail: qiangsen166@yeah.net
Address :No. 151 Han Zhong Road ,Nan Jing city ,Province ,China

Company registered (Date Established) March 1, 2011

Scammer

Is anybody else doing business with them?
I think they are not serious.

thanks.
Giulanvi

Nanjing Xiangfa Import & Export Co., Ltd.
(in Chinese: 南京翔发进出口贸易有限公司)
Tel: +86-25-58785542
Fax: +86-25-58785384
E-mail: qiangsen166@yeah.net
www.njxiangfa.com
Domain name: njxiangfa.com
Created: 2011-03-07
Expires: 2012-03-07

Here's another one - the same Chinese Notary Scam

Li li gang
Nanjing Xinagfa Import and Export trading CO,. LTD
Mobile +86-13851507289

Liang Fucheng
Mobile: +86-13601402374

Again - Nanjing Xiang Fa Import/Export is a COMPLETE FRAUD!

Give these gentlemen a call, in fact - call their office. Let's get their phone bill up!

Office: +86-25-58785542

http://www.njxiangfa.com

It's pretty obvious to us now, but wasn't before we made the trip...luckily we did not give them a CENT! We did get to tour the country which was pretty cool...would not have gone otherwise.

Thanks!

Hello,
Is this company a scammer ?

We have been approached by this company in the month of April 2011. They have specified technical drawings which make us believe that they are genuine buyers. Then after a month long communication and negotiations they sent us an invitation letter (required by the Chinese Consulate foe applying for a visa). We applied for two visas bases on these letter of invitation. We land up in China at their office to sign official contract. The contract was negotiated and they put forth a demand for margin money as advance as they need to provide this information to the Chinese government to notorise the contract documents. They even wanted us to share the notarisation fees but did not agree saying that we'll be notarising it in India and they'll have to share that fees.

We have transferred from India an amount of USD 8,280 to their company against quality margin as specified in the contract. E-mail correspondence continued till 9th June 2011. They made one more request that in order to transfer the advance payment to India, they have spent a certain amount to bribe the bank officials and hence this bribe money has to be shared. We point blank refused to share that amount.Thereafter, on their due date of 5th June, they requested a delay of five days and assured us the advance will be transfered on 10th June. On reminding them on the 9th, they replied that due to Dragon Boat Festival the remittance of contract amount advance is delayed and the same will be done by June 15th. Thereafter there is no further email from them. No reply to our emails sent to them. Then the mobile numbers are also switched off and the land lines are just blank.
During our visit to their office, they had produced certificates of registration of their company (unfortunately in Chinese) and also certificates of taxes paid (also in Chinese). We took some photographs of Mr Li LiGang, the general Manager of the company and also Ms Yang his Secretary-cum-interpretor. We would like to initiate action against this kind of scammers to ensure others are not duped like us.

Dhritimon

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Here's another one - the same Chinese Notary Scam

Li li gang
Nanjing Xinagfa Import and Export trading CO,. LTD
Mobile +86-13851507289

Liang Fucheng
Mobile: +86-13601402374

Again - Nanjing Xiang Fa Import/Export is a COMPLETE FRAUD!

Give these gentlemen a call, in fact - call their office. Let's get their phone bill up!

Office: +86-25-58785542

http://www.njxiangfa.com

It's pretty obvious to us now, but wasn't before we made the trip...luckily we did not give them a CENT! We did get to tour the country which was pretty cool...would not have gone otherwise.

Thanks!