Hard to tell - Chinese Sellers/Companies

[threeprongtong]

I'm looking for a company in China that sells Bape hoodies. I want them actually made in China because I dont feel like forking over 300-400$ for a sweater. I know I can get them from China somehow, but I have no way of seeing who is fake and who isn't.


I have 3 sites I've been looking at:

www.pickcnshoes.com

www.nikekicks.cn

www.joyhiphop.com (seems like the best so far.. i guess)


Let me know what you guys think.

DONT!!!

just dont, friend of mine bought a box of them. print is nice shipment ok handling ok but .......

* zipper is on wrong side
* the fiber is really thin so thin you can look trough it

so take my advice dont

[Daneel]

No one here is going to tell you the difference between the real fakers and the fake ones, or assist you in purchasing fake brand clothing. Trading in these items is illegal. We're supposed to prevent crimes here, not aid them

[Nyla]

Originally Posted by threeprongtong

I'm looking for a company in China that sells Bape hoodies. I want them actually made in China because I dont feel like forking over 300-400$ for a sweater.

I'm afraid if you want the name and the quality of the original, be you have to be prepared to pay the price they command. If you try to import counterfeits, you can expect inferior merchandise and possibly, getting all your merchandise seized by customs. You can also expect criminal charges in some countries, particularly if you intend to pass them off to others as Bape brand.

I understand your dilemma! I was recently looking and pickcnshoes for wholesale ipods. They sent me an email that seemed legit and looked like a good deal. At this point I still don't think I am gonna buy from them...they only take payment via Western Union and that makes them suspect to me. Wouldn't a truly legit wholesaler take many forms of payment?

[Nyla]

A legitimate Chinese company should at the very least have a bank account in their company name. Not an individual's name. There is some difficulty, I understand, that prevents most Chinese companies from being able to accept international credit cards easily.

The site pickcnshoes claims to carry Lacoste. Unless they have changed their policies recently, Lacoste has told us that they do not allow their products to be distributed online. That would indicate this site is not telling the truth about carrying Lacoste brand products, at minimum.

OMG people?
I mean what the hell is wrong with you?
Life is Life, these people make clothes "Replicas fakes whateva you *Removed call it these days" so that they can make money, to feed their families
and loved ones... Look here, you gonna live then you gonna die? Is this your choice of living, this is such a joke its unbelievable...Ratting out people because their clothes arnt real? cant you see what you are doing? There is nothng wrong with fake clothing... (besides what is fake?).....

Who are you to judge?....I dont know how anyone can take you seriously?
"you really dont know what you causing"!!!

GET REAL!!!

[poirot]

Firstly, I'll ask that you don't use insulting language.

You're totally missing the point. Fakes, counterfeits, copies etc.., are illegal because they are a theft of copyrighted property for which companies spend a lot on money designing and developing. They are illegal in most countries including China.

The people selling these fake goods are likely to be far from being poor. These merchants of counterfeit are stealing from the companies that own the brand as well as the buyer to whom they lie, pretending that they are selling the real brand high quality product when in fact they are most often cheap, defective and of inferior quality, thereby stealing from their customers as well.

The buyer of these cheap copies face being charged with a criminal offense and their shipment seized by customs.

Everyone loses except the thief who sells the fake product. And you suggest we turn a blind eye? Don't count on it.

[ThatGrrl]

Originally Posted by JUST GROW UP?

(besides what is fake?).....

Uh, quoting from the Oxford English Dictionary (the highlighted words should give you a clue) ........

fake


• adjective not genuine; counterfeit.
• noun a person or thing that is not genuine.
• verb 1 forge or counterfeit. 2 pretend to feel or suffer from (an emotion or illness).
— DERIVATIVES faker [FONT=Arial narrow]noun[/FONT] fakery [FONT=Arial narrow]noun[/FONT].
— ORIGIN origin uncertain.

Also, as Poirot has said, the sale (and purchase of these goods is illegal, and if anyone does try importing them they'll more than likely be seized by Customs and Excise on the way in. Leaving the buyer out of pocket.

Originally Posted by JUST GROW UP?

There is nothng wrong with fake clothing...

Yes there is. Cheap imitations of good products get the real products a bad name. Companies get hurt very badly by cheap imported inferior imitations.

Originally Posted by JUST GROW UP?

Who are you to judge?

Scroll up to the top of the screen and read the title of this forum... FRAUD WATCHERS... That is what gives us the right to judge, because it involves FRAUD.

Originally Posted by JUST GROW UP?

....I dont know how anyone can take you seriously? "you really dont know what you causing"!!!

We have been back online a short time, after being subjected to a protracted Denial Of Service attack perpetrated by internet criminals. That is how serious people take us, and sites like ours, and yes, we do know how much pain, suffering, anquish and strife we cause internet criminals... may we live long. Do you care about the pain, suffering, anquish and strife delivered to the VICTIMS of these internet predators? No, I guess you don't.

Don't forget to write back.

[FW Admin]

Originally Posted by JUST GROW UP?

Who are you to judge?....I dont know how anyone can take you seriously?
"you really dont know what you causing"!!!

GET REAL!!!

I guess reporting frauds in such an open medium is tough on you guys down there in South Africa, with your scam setups...

Originally Posted by JUST GROW UP?

Life is Life, these people make clothes "Replicas fakes whateva you *Removed call it these days" so that they can make money, to feed their families
and loved ones... Look here, you gonna live then you gonna die? Is this your choice of living, this is such a joke its unbelievable...Ratting out people because their clothes arnt real? cant you see what you are doing? There is nothng wrong with fake clothing... (besides what is fake?)....

What we are doing is exposing frauds. Believe it or not (most kids learn that fakes is wrong and fraud is a crime in junior school), mobsters, bank robbers and others of that ilk use the same excuse when they're caught ("I have five kids to feed your honor")... can we see what we are doing? Yes, unfortunately, we can... and it's people like you that cause the honest, hard working people on this planet to pay for your crimes in one form or another. And they have families and loved ones to feed too...

You think committing a crime is a joke? I hope you find it as funny when you're on the other side of the bars, sharing pink soap with your cell mate Bubba...

[deepdiscounts]

Hi there...DHgate is one of China's leading online trade platform from with thousands of Chinese suppliers registered. It has a strict certification program for their suppliers, weeding out fakes is easy here...Do remember to use DHgate's info boards diligently to be forewarned too. Why not simply send a mail to their helpful customer service staff and get to know more about your suppliers...let them help you, to help yourself to the amazing discounts from their sellers (I do it so can you!)

From what I have read, DHGate is nothing more than an eBay clone where you are purchasing from individual sellers using the DHGate site. [ref] There is no 100% guarantee that any company (Chinese or otherwise) is legitimate. Despite any alleged vetting process, criminals will always be able to circumvent the process... ie: lie!

DHGate cannot guarantee the authenticity of a seller, just the same as eBay can't. If there was a foolproof 100% certain system, it would be worth an absolute fortune.

Hello, I am a new member of EC21 and have negotiated for a product from a company
called Huanqiu Technology Co.,Ltd. Their website is www.5yco.com. They are a paying member of EC21. Due to this I feel they are legit but want a second opinion. What do you suggest I do before I send them payment by Western Union? Do companies in China know about COD? Is it a common practice? Any insight on this company would be most helpful.

Thank you,
RV

Originally Posted by MYMOOMBA

Hello, I am a new member of EC21 and have negotiated for a product from a company
called Huanqiu Technology Co.,Ltd. Their website is www.5yco.com. They are a paying member of EC21. Due to this I feel they are legit but want a second opinion. What do you suggest I do before I send them payment by Western Union? Do companies in China know about COD? Is it a common practice? Any insight on this company would be most helpful.

Thank you,
RV

Any transaction to an unknown company via insecure methods such as Western Union are huge risks. You will have no chance of getting your money back if it turns out to be a fraud.

Just because they are allegedly paying for some sort of membership does not make them legitimate. Buyer beware!

The site: 5yco.com was registered on 2007/10/12 for ONE year only.
The site: sonyec.com appears to be either a copy of 5yco.com or the original. This other site was created on 2007/06/30 again for ONE year.

Based on the fact that both sites are copies of each other, with the same Western Union payment details, I would be highly suspicious of both.

[Frazzle]

There is nothng wrong with fake clothing... (besides what is fake?).....

Let's leave aside the whole inferior quality of copies thing. And the possible illegality of importing them.

The key thing is that the seller is a *criminal* who steals designs from some other company. Now, why would he stop at that? Why not make even more money by stealing from his customers as well?

The best reason not to buy fake clothing/shoes/electronics from China (or elsewhere) is that you would be dealing with a professional criminal who

(a) knows all the tricks of his trade, whereas you know almost nothing. So, for example, most people don't know that Western Union payments can be picked up completely anonymously, and anywhere in the world. This makes WU a favourite of fraudsters, and a major red flag. WU themselves say that you should NOT use them to send money where you do not already know and trust the recipient.

(b) knows that there's practically nothing you can do if/when you are ripped off. You can't identify the person you're dealing with. All you have is a fake name, a phone number, and a domain name, also registered in a fake name. Even if you could identify them, you would have to physically go to China to register a complaint (assuming this person is actually in China and not, for example, in Nigeria).

Smart people do not deal with criminals!

[Alibaba]

Originally Posted by MYMOOMBA

Hello, I am a new member of EC21 and have negotiated for a product from a company
called Huanqiu Technology Co.,Ltd. Their website is www.5yco.com. They are a paying member of EC21. Due to this I feel they are legit but want a second opinion. What do you suggest I do before I send them payment by Western Union? Any insight on this company would be most helpful.

Thank you,
RV

www.5yco.com is a typical Putian Fraud. You will receive either nothing, or at best a cheap knock off. So if you order 10pcs. Nokia N95 you may get 2 cheap Chinese low end phones.

That means, if you payed by Paypal you not claim insurance because you got something.