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  #41  
Old 2 February 2008, 10:15
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Originally Posted by Ernee View Post
Są na Autoscout24, mobile.de, i wielu wielu innych giełdach internetowych.
Na szczęście nie udało mi się zakupić super auta za 3000 Euro, bo z kolegą informatykiem sprawdziłem dogłębnie stronę internetową firmy transportowej z ktòrej niby dostałem maila z numerem przewozowym. Okazało się że strona ta została "postawiona" kilka minut po tym jak wysłałem maila z decyzją o zakupie. a numer przewozowy ktòry się wpisało w "dziale tracking" był jedynym jaki był zaprogramowany do wpisania

Ja specjalnie zaczepiałem takie podejrzanie super okazje i oto co udało mi się zebrać.

Podam kilka maili z ktòrych piszą Ci oszuści i nazwiska jakimi się posługują:
1. - Markus Welberg <mwelberg29@googlemail.com> - wysyła niby firmą transportową "Europe Delivery Ltd."
2 - Denis Wallach - deniswallach@yahoo.com - transakcje zabezpieczone niby poprzez firmę autoscout24
3 - Hudson Peter hudsonp_1975@yahoo.co.uk -
4 - Tomase Guy" tomase01guy@yahoo.com
5 - Joe Makin joe-makin@hotmail.com
6 - Terry Martins" trop.cool@hotmail.com
7 - Michel Vanheule vanheulemichel@yahoo.de
8 - Aly Jo aly-jo@hotmail.com
9 - Carlos Moreno carlosito_moreno@yahoo.com
10 - Karton Aburi karton1sell@gmail.com
11 - Loyer2006@aol.com
12 - Eric Shaw crau49@office-dateien.de
13 - Charles Heine charles_heine21@yahoo.de
14 - Tom Bigan bbigantom@yahoo.de firma niby transportowa to
Aberdeen Express Worldwidecom
http://aberdeen-express-worldwidecom.../en/index.html


Uważajcie i nie dajcie się zrobić w balona !!!!!!
15. Ludwig Fischer ludwfisch@gmail.com i firma http://www.express-cds.eu.tp
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  #42  
Old 3 February 2008, 17:55
bagio28
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Exclamation VW Golf 1.9 TDI Bon Jovi from Rhonald Jenkins

Warning:
mail from cheat:

"Hello Robert ,
Thank you for your email and I want to apologise for my delay in replying .I will try to answer clearly to all your questions.First I want to mention that the car is located in Spain(Valencia).The car has been bought from Germany while I was working there as a programmer at a Software Company for 1 year. Now I have turned back in Spain because the working contract expired . I do not want to keep the car in Spain because the insurance taxes are very expensive .In case you are interested to buy it do not hesitate to contact me .
Mfg Rhonald"

CHeat:
RhonaldJenkinsRhonaldJenkins@yahoo.com
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  #43  
Old 5 February 2008, 20:48
rafi
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Smile oszustwa na autoscout24 mobile.dede itp.

Witam was od kilku tygodni poszukuje samochodu na stronach typu autoscout24 i mobile.de
myslałem ze bedzie to łatwe lecz sie myliłem. Podejżewałem ze jest duzo oszustwów ale niewiedziałem ze az tak wielu.
Interesowały mnie samochody w okazyjnych cenach bo któz znasz niechciał by jeździć dobrym autem za nałe pieniadze wiec zaczołem wysyłac maile do włascicieli tych aut.
Za kazdym razem kiedy wysyłame okazało sie ze natrafiałem na oszusta.
MOja przygoda zaczeła sie na Włoszech a zkonczyła na Anglii. umieszcze wam maile abyscie byli przezorni i aby was ostrzec przed tym co kryje sie w tranzakcjach na utosout24 i mobile.de a wiaze sie za samochodami w okazyjnych cenach.

1 oszust Włochy
Hello,
My name is Andre Gode and i am writing you regarding the:volkswagen Passat TDI 1.9,Navi Station Wagon VARIANT Highline, 09/2003, EUR 3.280,-
It has only 79.820 KM on it.The car is located in Bergamo-Italy and it's LIKE NEW!!!! It was never been involved in accidents.It has no scratches or something else.I am the first owner of the car.This is my last price and the car it's not in leasing so you have to pay only this price and nothing more..I have all the papers of the car and the service book as well.Everything is OK with the car.If you are interested please write me an e-mail.The car has the steering wheel on the left side.
Thank's

Odpisałem jak miała by wygladac ta tranzakcja. Miałem chęc poleciec do włoch i przyjechac na kołach samochodem. Z czego dostałem odpowiedź

Feew weeks ago somebody from Germany told me that he want to buy my car.I told him that is Ok,we will meet in Bergamo-Italy and we will make the deal.I was in Bergamo in the next day but no buyer,never respond to my emails or to my calls so here is what i am sugessting to you:
With this service i am sure that you have the money and that you will come for sure in Bergamo.
This service name is Western Union Money Transfer.
You must find the nearest Western Union agency and you will go there with your best friend or your wife. Your wife or your friend will be the sender of the money and the receiver of the money is you in Bergamo-Italy.
I want to be 100 % sure that you will be in Bergamo-Italy because once the money are sent you have to be in Bergamo to get the money.
Right now i am located in Oslo/Norway with business but after i will get the receipt from WU i will come back in Bergamo to wait you and to finish the deal.That's why i need to see the receipt.I don't want to buy the plane ticket to come and then to wait you and maybe you will never come.
If i will see the receipt then i will be sure that you will come and i will go to buy the ticket plane for Bergamo.
After the transfer is made you must scan the receipt from WU and then send it in to my e-mail address attached so i can check.If you are agree then i will keep the car for you and after i will see the copy from Western Union then in max.1 day i will come back in Bergamo to wait you.You must understand that you will not send the money to my name..You will be the receiver of the money and only you can take the money from Western Union.
As soon as i will see the copy from Western Union i will go and i will buy the plane ticket for Bergamo.After that i will send you the copy so you can be sure that i am not joking and that i will be in the same day in Bergamo.
When we will meet in Bergamo we will go to a mechanic to confirm you that the car is OK and to Police Station so they can tell you that the car it's not stolen.I will transfer the documents from the car to you and after that we will both go to the office and you will take the money sended by your wife or your friend in Bergamo.If something is wrong with this car then i will pay all your costs and i will give you an extra 1000 Euro for your time so please troust me because the car is in perfect condition.Western Union take comission for sending the money.This is not a problem because when we will meet in Bergamo i will give you back the money which you have paid for sending the money to Italy.
If you are interested please call me so we can discuss the details at: 0044 7031 914668

Co mnie zastanowiło to numer kierunkowy dlaczego jest angileski jak gosciu jest w Norwegii, nastepnie był zbyt uprzejmy ze zwróci wszystkie koszty gdyby było cos nie tak inawet dodatkowo zapłaci mi 1000 euro.
Kolejne moje kroki były skierowane w poszukiwaniu informacjii o Western Union po czym natrafiłem na stone http://e-platnosci.23.pl/scam_squaretrade.htm
i wszystko jasne.
Wiec zaproponowałem mu inny rodzaj tranzakcji że załoze konto z mozliwością podglądu przez internet bez dokonywania jakich kolwiek tranzakcji, nastepnie przesle mu login i hasło i bedzie mógł gdzie tylko bedzie chciał i kiedy bedzie chciał podgladac stan konta ze sa tam pieniądze napewno i aby miał pewność ze przylece do włoch to przesłał bym mu kopie biletów lotniczych. Miałby gwarancje. Otrzymałem odpowiedź

Dear Sir,
I am sorry but i will come only after i will see the copy from Western Union because like i told you last time i was folled and i do not want to spend my time just to go to Bergamo and then to return in Norway.
If you are agree then we can finish the deal in just 2/3 days.
You must understand that you will not send the money to my name..You will be the receiver of the money and only you can take the money from Western Union.Also for you safety i sugesst you to keep the code from WU because this number is for your security.Please troust me because i am a honest man and not a thief..
Thank you!

Jeżeli to mu nieodpowiadało to już sobie pomyślałem tak to napewno przekret.
Moje poszukiwania trwały dalej co nieoznaczało że juz nienatrafiłem na oszustów.

2 oszust Belgia

Hello,

The car was never been involved in accidents, the engine it is perfect, and the car is in excellent condition, it has 112.000 km. I am the first owner, it has the technical book and all papers. I am not a smoker, and the car looks like a new one.

The price is 4.000 Euro shipping included to your address, because the car is located in Leeds, England. I worked as lawyer in Belgique when I bought the car. Now I just moved back from Belgique to UK, and the car is here with me. The reason that I sell this car is because I found a car here which I want to buy it, a UK model, but first I have to sell my car. I tried to sell it, to a local dealer but they told me they can not accept it in UK, because of the left side wheel drive.
Do not worry about the shipping I have an agreement, with a shipping company and I can delivery the car to your address. If you are interested reply me back, so I can give you more information.
I have attached more photos for you.
Thank you very much for your interest.

HEHEHE co to za prawnik jak go niestac na samochód
Drógi mail od niego
Hello,

The price is 4.000 Euro shipping included to your address. For this transaction we will use Global Transport LTD as shipping company. After Global Transport LTD will contact you, with all the details about this transaction, you will have to deposit 50% ( 2.000 Euro ) half of the total price to Global Transport LTD.

After this deposit is done to Global Transport LTD they will start the delivery of my car to your address. ( Global Transport LTD will release the money to me ONLY after you receive the car and the inspection is done ). After you will receive the car you will have 15 days of inspection. If you like it you will send the rest of the money, if you find something wrong or if you do not like it anymore you will send the car back and your money will be returned to you. The car has belgian papers and plates, all papers and a bill of sale come along with the car so you can register it on your name. This transaction takes 2 days to complete and is safe and secure.
If you are ready to start this transaction go to www.gt-solutions-ltd.com register with your e-mail address and let me know after that so I can start the transaction, after the transaction is started you will receive all details about the payment and shipping.
Waiting ...
Pomyslałem sobie co za facec dostarczy mi samochód pod dom i pokryje koszty transportu no mówie bosko.
Zaczołem szukać informaci o tej pseudo firmie. Znalazłem dwie identyczne strony Tylko nazwa firmy była inna a najleprze było to ze niebyło numeru kontaktowego, w google tez nic niemozna było poszukac o tej firmie.
Poszukałem w polsce firme Global która trudniła sie transportem i pogadałem z włascicielem na jakiej zasadzie to wyglada.
Odpowiedział mi ze przedewszystkim pieniadze dopiero podczas odbioru towaru chyba ze sie niespodoba samochód to zabieraja go zpowrotem. Dodał komentarz cytuje "Jeżeli ktoś juz woła odemnie pieniądze przed tranzakcją i dobejrzeniem samochodu to juz go nielubie"
Na koniec dodał ze to napewno oszustwo.
Miło sie znim gadało, podziekowałem za rozmowe.

3 Oszust Włochy

Hello,

The car is still for sale and the price for it is 4.000 EUR.
I can tell you the car is in a perfect
condition, as you can see in the pictures and it has never involved in
an accident or something else.
The car was my brother's who lived in Munchen. My brother died
a month ago in a motorcycle accident and let me the car. And as I don't
need it, I decided to sell it.
I also don't want to get rich on the death of my brother so that's why
I have put a low price. I just want to sell it to a serious buyer who
will take care of the car just like my brother had, which was a
nonsmoker and so it is a nonsmoker car.
I live in Pescara, Italy and the car is unregistered
and it has temporary german transit number plates which are valid three
weeks from now on.
We can meet in Milano, Italy to finalize this deal because is closer
to you. I want to know
if you can meet me and I want to be sure you'll be there.
You can send me an email, if you have further questions.
I'll wait your reply.

Hello,

My name is Fortuna Daniele and I`m located in Pescara/Italy and in a
few words I want to explain you my situation:
the car was owned by my brother that was student in Munchen/Germany
and he died a month ago in a motorcycle accident and let me the car.
I will answer to all your questions after i will receive the
confirmation that you agree with my terms of sale.
** Feew days ago a person from Norway, told to me that is 100% decided
to buy the car. I said OK, we will meet in Milano and we will make the
deal on spot.
When I came in Milano, no buyer and never respond to my emails or
calls, so here is what I'm sugesting you just to avoide to make the
same mistake 2 times:
-All the time that my brother lived in Munchen, I have sent him money
trough a cash transfer service, that has a website too and with this
service i'll have the necessarry prouve to take a decision regardind
my trip to Germany.
The service name is Western Union Money Transfer and the website is
www.westernunion.com. ;
You can find a Western Union Agency in your location into a Bank or a
Postal Office or at this link:
http://locator.westernunion.com/Agen...do?method=load
** You will have to choose a person from your family
(wife,husband,mother,father,sister) or your best friend to make a
transfer of EUR 2000 of the price from his name (from yours location)
into your name, but in Milano (just like you are allready in Milano).
The person that will wire the money into your name, will be the sender
of the transfer and you the receiver and only you two will have the
control of this funds.
After the transfer is done, the person that will wire the money will
receive a receipt from the western Union agent and all you have to do
is to scann this receipt and to send it to me attached trough e-mail.
This paper will be enough for me to see that you have the money and
your interes in buying my car is real.
At my turn, as soon as I will see the scanned receipt that will show
me that this amount is valid in your Western Union account in Milano,
I will make some researches at the Airport, to see when I'll have
flights to Milano.
We will set up a place and a time when we should meet in Milano.
** I think that you'll understand my concerne and my terms of sale
will not be a problem for you if you realy want the car and if you are
a serious person.
I don't want to buy the plane ticket, to come and then to wait for you
and maybe you will never come, as my first client from Norway.
I have lost a lot of money for that trip and my trust in people. If I
will see the receipt, then I will be sure that you have the money and
you will be there to wait for me when I will arrive in Milano.
** I want to make all clear and to tell you that, I have put a
location from Germany at random, just to be able to post my ad on
mobile.de.
I have found this web site on www.google.com and I have post the ad on
others web sites too, because I want to sell it faster.
When you will come in Milano, we will go to a mechanic to confirm you
that the car runs perfect and to a Police office to confirm you that
the car it's not stolen.
If something is wrong with this car and if will not be as I have
described you, then I will pay for your trip and for the time that you
will lose. The car is in
perfect conditions it's like new, I know how much my brother took care of it.
The car papers are on my name now and I will transfer the documents of
the car and the plates number on your name and after that we both go
to a Western Union Office in Milano to get the money that
has been sent from the person from your family
(wife,mother,father,sister) or your best friend.
** I have to tell you that,to transfer money trough Western Union you
will pay a commission.
This is not a problem, because when we will meet in Milano/Italy, I
will refund you the commission from my pocket. Also when the sender
will go to the Western Union office i think it is better not to tell
that the transfer is for a car purchase because will pay a higher
commision for the transfer, and to tell that is for a personal
emergency.
** I will wait your answer only if you will agree with my proposal, if
not don't reply to waste my time with other ways to close the deal.
For more details feel free to contact me anytime on my mail address.
Thank you for contacting me and hope you will understand my point of view!!!
Thank you,

Znów Western Union

4 Oszust Niemcy

Hello ,
My last price is 3600 euro the car is registred in Germany , the car have German papers but I just move in Italy with my family and for the moment the car is located in Italty and it's like new . It has all the necesarry paperwork: registration certificate , TUV (technical check) .It was never been involved in accidents no mechanical problems , all parts are original the paint on this car has not been altered and is original from front to back ..It has no scratches or something else never smoke inside,garaged, and you have to pay only this price and nothing more.This car has been verified and it is in perfect conditions.I am the first owner of this car.
If you not have the posibility to come to Italy then I can come to you with the car without any extra charges ..
Thank you

Inetersowały mnie sczeguły tej transakcji

Hello ,
My brother have a transport agency and he can help me to come to you with the car so you will don't have to pay the charges ....
The problem is that I want to make sure that you will realy meet with me because I don't want to come till you with the car and maybe this is a joke ..
I'm a serious man and I will not ask you to send my money because nobody want to take a risk I'm right ?
Please tell me if you have a friend in Italy or if you know somebody in Italy that I can meet for my I can see that this is not a joke only to meet with him and make sure that you are serious about this deal ..
If you don't have will see what we will do ...
I wait your e-mail ....
Thank you

O coś nowego

Dear Sir ,
I wat to tell you that feew weeks ago a person from Germany told to me that want to buy my car.I said Ok,we will meet in Italy and we will make the deal.I come in Italy but no buyer,never respond my emails or calls so here is what i am sugesting :
With this service i am sure that you have the money and that you will come for sure in Italy...
This service name is western union agenty ....You must find the nearest western union agency and you will go there with your best friend or your wife and send the money. Your wife or your friend will be the sender and the receiver is you in Italy ..
I want to be 100 % sure that you will come to Italy because once the money are sent you have to be in Italy to get the money.
Right now i am located in Belgium with the work but after i will get the receipt from western union i will come home in Italy to wait you and to finish the deal.That's why i need to see the receipt.I don't want to buy the plane ticket to come and then to wait you and maybe you will never come.
If i will see the receipt then i will be sure that you will come and i will go to buy the ticket plane for Italy .
After the transfer is made you must scan the receipt from western union and then send it in to my e-mail address so i can check.If you are agree then i will keep the car for you and after i will see the copy from the receipt then in 1 day i will come back in Italy to wait you.
When you will come in Italy we will go to a mechanic to confirm you that the car is OK and to Police so they can tell you that the car it's not stolen.
After the car will be on your name then we will go to western union to pick up the money sended by your friend and then you will give me the the money in my hand ....
Please let me know if you interested to go forward with this deal ..
Thank you

Napisałem mu po co był potrzebny mój kolega we Włoszech skoro on jest w Belgii a przed chwila był we Włoszech, niby jak się chciał zkontaktowac znim. Już wiecej nieodpisał.

5 Oszust Hiszpania

Hello Rafal,
I hope you understand english because I don't write German so well even if I lived and worked in Germany for a year.The car is in excellent condition, never down, no scratch on it and is currently registered In
Germany. The car was made in 06/2004 and was registred for the first time on 11/2004.It`s Audi A4 with a diestel engine 1.9 TDI.
It comes with all the documents needed for registration, it has a clear title and it can be anytime Registered into your name without a
problem. The price I want to obtain for it is 3.650 Euro (shipping fees
included) and if you agree with it we can start to complete the
transaction. The car is insured in case of damage and can send it anywhere in
Europe in 2-3 days to your home on my expence.The car is now located in
Madrid, Spain because I moved recently .I realise that is a cheap
price for such a car but my special situation makes me do things that I
wouldn't do in normal Circumstances. I've wanted to register it here and
keep it for me. Unfortunately import_ taxes and European regulations made
me change my mind. Now I am trying to sell it back to for such a low
price because next week I have a deadline term for paying some taxes.
let me know
Thank you!

Szczegóły transakcji

Hello there,
My final price is 3.500 Euros... I would like to inform you that
we will use an International Shipping Company for insurance which works
hand in hand with autoscout24 ( they deliver the car to you and
autoscout24 insures your money ). In Spain this shipping company is
very popular and trustable and all the transaction will be done through
Autoscout.Is a shipping company that offers the posibility to sell
cars over the internet safetly. I will pay for all charges(shipping
taxes). As soon as I will send the car, they will email you all the info
regarding the shipping status: delivery time,arrival time .They will
deliver the car to your door step. After you will receive all shipping info,
you must send the money to one of Autoscout24 agents(your money will be protected by autoscout24 ). They will
email you the payment instructions once with the shipping info.After they
receive the payment info from you they`ll start the shipping to you
and in 2 day`s the car will arive at your home. Return policy: After you
receive the car you will have 5 working days to inspect it.In this
time you`ll check the car condition and all the car papers.If you decide to keep the car the shipping company will release the money to me.If you don`t want to keep the car they will give your money back and they will ship the car back to me. This is the safest deal that i can offer you.Now if you agree give me your full name and address and i`ll go and send the
car to you.I`am waiting news from you,so if you accept send me your
details for shiping,first name, last name,zip code ,city,country ,address.
Thank you and have a nice day!

Zastanawiało mnie to za autoscout24 bawi się w takie transakcje i zabezpiecza pieniadze.
Postanowiłem napisać do serwisu autoscout i przedstawiłem im sytuacje po czym otrzymałem odowiedź.

Dear user,
thank you for your mail.
We don´t have this service. Please don´t pay any money.
We are very sorry, that you got into contact with such a person, which
pretends to be interested into selling a car, but is only looking for gain
through illegal activities.
It is very difficult to completely stop these kinds of fake advertisements,
but we are working on it.
In the mean time, we put a warning out, under following address:
http://www.autoscout24.de/security
With the hope, that by the reading through honest people like you, we could
reduce these cases.
Again we realize, that the public access of our advertisements brings
advantages as well as disadvantages.
We wish you good luck in finding a real good offer.
Best regards.
Ihr
AutoScout24 / MotoScout24 / TruckScout24 Customer Care
AutoScout24 GmbH
Rosenheimer Str. 143 b
81671 Muenchen
Fax: +49 (0) 89 - 450 990 6516

I wszystko jasne.

6 Oszust Anglia odziwo kobieta – niby

Thank you for your mail. The car is still for sale.My last price is 3400 eur.Where are you located ?First of all I will give you basic informations about my A4. The car was bought from Italy and now it is located with me in United Kingdom, I am the first owner.As you see in the pictures the car is in excellent condition,this is a garage kept car, very well maintened,non smocking car,no accidents, no scratches, no dents,no need for additional repairs,it is in showroom condition,used only on limited weekend basis,the maintenance schedule has been followed to the letter and all service has been performed by dealer.All maintenance is documented,and I have all the necessary documents including the service book (Italian documents) to make the sale. The car was made in 02/2003 and it has only 64.580 km.
If you are interested or you have questions feel free to email me.

A wiec napisałem za mam kuzyna w Anglii I niech poda mi numer kontaktowy to załatwie wszystko przez kuzyna . Już nieodpisana. Być może się wstydziła spotkac heheh

7 oszust Niemcy

Hello,

Me name is Arie Hendrik and i am writing you regarding the:Audi A4 1.9 TDI Plus Navi,103.000 km,Erstzulassung:10/03,EUR 4.000.
The car is located in Berlin/Germany and it's LIKE NEW!!!! It was never been involved in accidents.It has no scratches or something else.I am the first owner of the car.This is my last price and the car it's not in leasing so you have to pay only this price and nothing more...I have all the papers of the car and the service book as well,the car have Germany papers and numbers (the TÜV & AU are payd until 11-2009).Everything is OK with the car.Please read down every thing very careful:
-Feew weeks ago somebody from France told to me that want to buy my car.I told him that is Ok,we will meet in Berlin/Germany and we will make the deal.I was in Berlin in the next day but no buyer,never respond to my emails or to my calls so here is what i am sugessting to you:
With this service i am sure that you have the money and that you will come for sure in Berlin .
This service name is Western Union Money Transfer.
You must find the nearest Western Union agency and your wife or your best friends will go there with money cash.Your wife or your friend will be the sender of the money and the receiver of the money is you in Berlin/Germany.
I want to be 100 % sure that you will be in Berlin because once the money are sent you have to be in Berlin to get the money.
Right now i am located in Dublin/Ireland with business but after i will get the receipt from WU i will come back in Berlin to wait you and to finish the deal.That's why i need to see the receipt.I don't want to buy the plane ticket to come and then to wait you and maybe you will never come.
If i will see the receipt then i will be sure that you will come and i will go to buy the ticket plane for Berlin .After the transfer is made you must scan the receipt from WU and then send it in to my e-mail address attached so i can check.If you are agree then i will keep the car for you and after i will see the copy from Western Union then in max.2 day i will come back in Berlin to wait you.You must understand that you will not send the money to my name.You will be the receiver of the money and only you can take the money from Western Union.
As soon as i will see the copy from Western Union i will go and i will buy the plane ticket for Berlin.After that i will send you the copy so you can be sure that i am not joking and that i will be in the same day in Berlin .
When we will meet in Berlin we will go to a mechanic to confirm you that the car is OK and to Police so they can tell you that the car it's not stolen.I will transfer the documents from the car to you and after that we will both go to Western Union and you will take the money sended by your wife or friend in Berlin .
If something is wrong with this car then i will give you 500 Euros from my money for your trip and for your time so please troust me because the car it's like new.
Western Union take comission for sending the money.This is not a problem because when we will meet in Berlin i will give you back the money which you have paid for sending the money to Berlin .
If you are still interested to make the deal with me please reply me or call me.
My phone number is:00447031864926 I speak english and moich

8 oszust Włochy

Hello,
The car is still for sale. I can tell you the car is in a perfect
condition, as you can see in the pictures and it has never involved in
an accident or something else.
The car was my brother's who lived in Milano, Italy. My brother died
a month ago in a motorcycle accident and let me the car. And as I don't
need it, I decided to sell it.
I also don't want to get rich on the death of my brother so that's why
I have put a low price. I just want to sell it to a serious buyer who
will take care of the car just like my brother had, which was a
nonsmoker and so it is a nonsmoker car. He took the car once a month to
a specialized service for tehnical revision.
I live in Belfast, Ireland.
We can meet in Milano, Italy to finalize this deal or if you want,
i can deliver the car to you with a shipping company. I want to know
if you can meet me and I want to be sure you'll be there. You can send
me an email,
if you have further questions.
I'll wait your reply.
Robert

9 oszust Niemcy

Good day,

The Audi A4 1.9 TDI is in perfect condition inside and outside as well,never been implicated in accidents.I never smoke in it and i want to sell it to a serious person who will take very good care of it.Germany car located in
Cologne/Germany(near Bonn)
The price that i'm asking for the car is ,€ 4001
If you want to buy this car wich is extremely fast and dependable and also fun to drive it,then don't hesitant to contact me back.
Now i am located in Ireland with my work.
Five days ago somebody from Wien told to me that want to buy my car.I told him that is Ok,we will meet in Cologne/Germany and we will make the deal.
I was in Cologne on the next day but the buyer don't come never respond to my emails or to my calls,so here is what i am sugesting to you.
If accept to buy my car you must make a depozit with Western Union Service on your name in Cologne/Germany to proof me that you will come for 100%,because when you will send the money in Cologne you must to come for pick up the money,in this way i will be sure that you will come.
After the transfer is made you must scan the receipt from WU and then send it in to my e-mail address attached so i can check the status.
As soon as i will see the copy from Western Union i will go and i will buy the plane ticket for Cologne and send you a copy and in max 2 days i will be in Bonn.
When we will meet in Cologne we will go to a mechanic to confirm you that the car is OK and to Police so they can tell you that the car it's not stolen
I will transfer the documents from the car to you and after that we will both go to Western Union and you will take the money sended by your wife or friend in Cologne.
I will gladly answer your questions.
I only take in consideration those buyers who are really interested in buying the car,to be sure that I don't spend my time with endless disscutions,or pure curiosity.
If you are interested please reply me on the email or call me MONDAY my number is 00447031897990
Thank you and i hope we can make a agreement together!!!
Marco

I znów Western Union

10 oszust Niemcy

Hello,
I hope you understand English because I don't write German so well even if I lived and worked in Germany a long period of time.
The car is in excellent condition ,I am the first owner, the car has never been involved in any accidents, the engine works perfectly and the car looks like a new one, the car has Germany documents.
I recently moved in UK with my job , I work as an engineer on a Petrol Platform and I must sell the car because it's European, German made and the steering wheel is on the left side and I can't register the car here because they require right steering wheel The car is in my garage and I can send it anywhere in Europe in 3 4 days to your home on my expense. We will use mobile.de fon up this so we can have a safe deal and your money and my car can be safe.
If you are interested please reply me so I can give you more information
Thanks for your time and interest

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Hello again,
here is the method:
All the documents are OK and you will have access to them when you will receive the car. All the taxes of shipping will be paid by me so you do not have to worry about more expenses.We will make the deal only through Mobile.de.
This is the way how it works:
1.First me ( The seller ) and you ( The buyer ) must be agreed with the start of the transaction.
2 .You will need to send me your full name and address to start the transaction with Mobile.de.
3.I will leave the car in Mobile.de custody, they will contact you with the invoice and details how to complete the transaction.
4.Along with the Shipping Confirmation you will be asked by them to deposit the money to their agent.
5.After you will complete the payment to them and the money is received by them your money will go into a secured account and they will remain there until you receive and test the car.
6.Once you receive the car, the payment will be released to me only if you are completely satisfied with the car. If you will not be satisfied , Mobile.de.de -Shipping will send the car back to me and they will refund your money.
If you accept my terms please send me your full details (full name and full address) and after that Mobile.de
. will contact you with the next steps.
Thanks in advance and hope to hear back from you soon!

O mobile.de też zajmuje sie takimi transakcajmi jak niby autosout24.
Moja procedura była podobna napiałem maila do serwisu mobile.de
Otrzymałem odpowiedź

thank you for your eMail.
In case you are trying to get a good bargain in another city, please be alert if you are told to pay an amount in advance without getting any guarantee or security.
Recently we are experiencing an increasing number of cases of fraud, where so-called guarantees (usually via Western-Union) are required in order to acquire an apparently cheap vehicle. Interested buyers are deceived by providing them with wrong details, whereas the money is picked up by using false documents of identity.
Usually victims are not indemnified for their financial damage. Neither banks nor insurance companies feel responsible for the damage.
Moreover only false personal data about the seller is available.
Even websites that look like mobile.de sites, offering a trust and safety service are complete fakes. We do not offer such a service.
mobile.de is just the platform and the connecting link between the seller and the buyer, by putting the platform at disposal vehicles can be advertised.
Kind regards
Your mobile.de team
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Customer Support
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Marktplatz 1, D-14532 Europarc Dreilinden
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11 oszust Anglia

Hello
I have the car still for sale, and it in excellent condition as you can see in the pictures and , no accidents, no scratches, no dents, no need for any additional repairs.
This was my father's car who lived in Germany and was break up from my mother.
My father died two months ago because a cerebral accident and now the car is in my property. And as i don`t need it i decided to sell it, because i already have my car,
I live in London, Uk and I have the car here with me. It is registered in Germany and it has german plates numbers.I didn't used it here because it's quite hard to drive a european car with the steering wheel on the left side, and this is also one reason that i want to sell it.
Also i don`t want to get rich on the death of my father so that`s why i have put a low price. I just want to sell it to a serious buyer who will take care of the car just like my father had, which was a nonsmoker and so it a nonsmoker car, also once a month he took the car to a specialized service for a technical revise.
The phone number that you have is my father`s phone number but is not valid anymore, and the address also.
You can send me an e-mail if you have further questions.If you are realy interested of the car tell me and i will come with the car at you...
Also i don`t write german very good so please reply me in english.
I`ll wait your reply
Thank you and have a nice day.

Powtórzyłem to z moim kuzynem.
Otrzymałem odpowiedź.

Hello,
I am in United Kingdom now and so is the car...
Look how we can make this deal, because I have tried to find the best
solution, for both of us.
To be sure, that you are a serious person and I will come with the car at you, for a real deal,
you will have to show me that you really have the money for this car, you will wait for me...
Here is how we can start this deal together.I do not need any advance payment done to me until you see my car .
But because i will have to come at you , i can not put myself on the road until i will have some kind of warranty :
Here is EXACTLY how I propose you to make a safe deal:
-You go to your nearest WU branch and deposit 50% of money you have to pay
me for the car on a familiary name ( your best friend,your father etc ) .
-After you deposit the money you will receive the receipt ( your Send Money
Form paper copy ). Scan it and send it back to me in JPEG format. In this way I
make sure you that the money have been deposited correctly and I see you don't
want to cheat me.
-Once I receive the scanned receipt from you, I will IMMEDIATELY come
to your location.
-After i will come to you , you will inspect the car and all its papers. If all is
OK, you will have to go on Western Union and modify the transfer details by
changing the receiver name with my name so I can collect the money and give
me the rest of the money. And our deal ends there.
-It's a 100% safe deal for both of us. Your big advantage: you can inspect the
car before I get payed and also i will have a little warranty to see .
If this is ok for you reply me asap
You can also call me anytime at 0044 70457 82335.
I'll wait for your answer.
Tak jakby nieczytał mojego maila.
Powtórzyłem mu go, już nieodpisał.

12 oszust Włochy

Hello,
My name is Amadeo Giambelli and i am writing you regarding the:Audi A4 Avant 1.9 TDI quattro, 03/2004, EUR 3.670,-
It has only 54.870 KM on it.The car is located in Bergamo-Italy and it's LIKE NEW!!!! It was never been involved in accidents.It has no scratches or something else.I am the first owner of the car.This is my last price and the car it's not in leasing so you have to pay only this price and nothing more..I have all the papers of the car and the service book as well.Everything is OK with the car.If you are interested please write me an e-mail.The car has the steering wheel on the left side.
Thank's

Interesowały mnie szczegóły

Feew weeks ago somebody from Germany told me that he want to buy my car.I told him that is Ok,we will meet in Bergamo-Italy and we will make the deal.I was in Bergamo in the next day but no buyer,never respond to my emails or to my calls so here is what i am sugessting to you:
With this service i am sure that you have the money and that you will come for sure in Bergamo.
This service name is Western Union Money Transfer.
You must find the nearest Western Union agency and you will go there with your best friend or your wife. Your wife or your friend will be the sender of the money and the receiver of the money is you in Bergamo-Italy.
I want to be 100 % sure that you will be in Bergamo-Italy because once the money are sent you have to be in Bergamo to get the money.
Right now i am located in Oslo/Norway with business but after i will get the receipt from WU i will come back in Bergamo to wait you and to finish the deal.That's why i need to see the receipt.I don't want to buy the plane ticket to come and then to wait you and maybe you will never come.
If i will see the receipt then i will be sure that you will come and i will go to buy the ticket plane for Bergamo.
After the transfer is made you must scan the receipt from WU and then send it in to my e-mail address attached so i can check.If you are agree then i will keep the car for you and after i will see the copy from Western Union then in max.1 day i will come back in Bergamo to wait you.You must understand that you will not send the money to my name..You will be the receiver of the money and only you can take the money from Western Union.
As soon as i will see the copy from Western Union i will go and i will buy the plane ticket for Bergamo.After that i will send you the copy so you can be sure that i am not joking and that i will be in the same day in Bergamo.
When we will meet in Bergamo we will go to a mechanic to confirm you that the car is OK and to Police Station so they can tell you that the car it's not stolen.I will transfer the documents from the car to you and after that we will both go to the office and you will take the money sended by your wife or your friend in Bergamo.If something is wrong with this car then i will pay all your costs and i will give you an extra 1000 Euro for your time so please troust me because the car is in perfect condition.Western Union take comission for sending the money.This is not a problem because when we will meet in Bergamo i will give you back the money which you have paid for sending the money to Italy.
If you are interested please call me so we can discuss the details at: 0044 7031 914668

I wciąż ta sama historia.
Oto moja krótka przygoda z kupnem samochodu i jak uważać na oszustów.
Moja PARSZYWA DWUNASTKA może Wam pomoże.
Trzymajcie się pozdrawiam was i niedarcie się oszukać.
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Old 26 February 2008, 22:24
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Dodalem info o naciagaczu w poscie http://fraudwatchers.org/forums/show...9&postcount=21

znalazlem ciekawa oferte na mobile.de i napisalem maila na topcars9@gmail.com
odpisal mi jakis typ z innego adresu justin.peyton01@yahoo.com i pisze ze chce zalatwic wszystko przez http://international-cargo-freight.com
od razu zauwazylem kilka podejrzanych spraw i zaczalem szukac informacji o firmie
i tym sposobem dotarlem do tej strony gdzie znalazlem identyczny mail z tym
jaki ja dostalem ale z innym adresem strony
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Old 17 March 2008, 19:34
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Od kilku dni obserwuję na mobile.de piękne, zadbane Audi A4 1.9 TDI quatro z 1998 roku w bardzo atrakcyjnej cenie. Samochód pojawia się i znika.
Skuszona ofertą próbowałam skontaktować się ze sprzedającym. Telefon nie odpowiadał, więc napisałam maila. Zaraz potem Audi zniknęło ze stronki. Odpisał mi niejaki Erik Peter (Eric Peter):

.........................
Hello,
Thank you because you have interested in my car and i`m glad because i can answer to you.
My last price is 1800Eur including all taxes,
The car have german papers with german plates numbers,
Like you can see in the pictures the car is in excellent condition, no accidents, no scratches, no dents, no need for additional repairs:
http://picasaweb.google.com/car.pict...ey=JRJ1DZJNsoo
I just moved out from Germany to UK, London and the car is here with me.That is the reason beacuse i don't need the car anymore because here in UK is very hard to drive an european car with the steering weel on the left side.
Like i told you i just moved out from Germany to UK, London and that is the reason beacuse i don't have a phone number by now,
So the only way that we can comunicate is trought the emails.
If you have others questions let me know,
Thanks.

--
Eric Peter
130 CRAVEN PARK ROAD
HARLESDEN
LONDON , GREATER LONDON NW10 8QD
........................................

Po obejrzeniu zdjęć od razu zdecydowałam się na kupno samochodu i przystąpiłam do omówienia szczegółów: miejsca i terminu spotkania na którym mielibyśmy sfinalizować transakcję. Byłam nawet gotowa polecieć samolotem do Londynu, ale Erik Peter zaproponował, że pójdzie mi na rękę i przywiezie samochód do Niemiec. Oto treść listu jaki dostałam:

......................
Hello,
Ok i will come to Germany with the car but I don't want to make the travel for nothing. What if you will not show up? Maybe this is a bad joke and I don't have time to lose. You know that time is money. Therefore I want a proof from you that you are serious. And the proof is a deposit in amount of 1800 EUR Ask a friend of yours to transfer the money via Western Union on your name ( in this way you are the only person able to pick them up and there is no chance to lose them ) and a London address. After the transfer is done send me the scanned paper from western Union as proof. If you will do that it means you are a serious person and you have only good intentions. So we will meet in Germany and you will inspect the car and the papers. If you decide to buy the car we go and we make the sales contract and afther this we go to the western union office and you will change the receiver name in my name so like this i will be able to take the deposit when i`m back to my home. In case you will decide not to buy the car you will pay me only the travel expences and you will get back yor money from Western Union going with your friend to the office.
I think I am reasonable enough and I also think that you will do in the same way if you were the seller.
Thank you for your time and I am waiting your decision

.................................

Czyż nie jest wiarygodny?
Po przeczytaniu maila zaczęłam szperać w internecie najpierw na stronce Western Union, a później trafiłam na to forum. Pojawiło się u mnie wiele wątpliwości. W międzyczasie ogłoszenie z "moim" Audi znów ktoś zamieścił na stronie mobile.de, ale co bardzo mnie zdziwiło z innym numerem telefonu. Od razu zadzwoniłam. Odebrał mężczyzna, raczej Niemiec (tak myślę bo miał dobry akcent) i krótko oznajmił, że ogłoszenie nie jest aktualne. zaraz potem zniknęło ze strony.

Lekko podirytowana natychmiast wysłałam maila do Erika P. wspomniałam o wykonanym telefonie i jakby nigdy nic wyjaśniłam dlaczego przekaz za pomocą Western Union nie wchodzi w grę. Zaproponowałam też inne rozwiązanie. Chwilę później dostałam odpowiedź (tak jakby nie czytał mojego maila) :
...............

That transfer that i`ve asked you to do is an insurance for me that
you`ll be in Germany and i`ll be sure i`ll not come for nothing.
I`ll need to know your decission by tomorrow evening.
Regards
...............
Odpisałam i teraz czekam na rozwój sprawy.


Nie chcę osądzać człowieka zanim nie będę miała pewności, że to oszust. Jednak podobieństwo tej sprawy do innych opisanych na forum jest ogromne. Nie robię więc sobie nadziei, by mogło być inaczej.
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Old 18 March 2008, 21:46
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Eric Peter
130 CRAVEN PARK ROAD
HARLESDEN
LONDON , GREATER LONDON NW10 8QD

Poszperałam w internecie i okazało się, że to nie jest pierwsze oszustwo "Pana Erika P."
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Old 24 April 2008, 08:52
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Oops VW Bora 1,9TDI Highline full

Cieszę się, że powstała taka strona jak ta. Dzięki niej nie zostałem oszukany a widzę, że siema o wyjeździe do UK jest tu dość powszechna.
Oto mój przypadek.
Od jakiegoś czasu obserwowałem na mobile.de klika aut. Zainteresowałem się VW Bora '03 full opcja, czarny lakier, beżowa tapicerka, 130KM, 1,9TDI. Istne CUDO.
Oczywiście nie było kontaktu tel. wiec wysłałem maila po ang.
Oto co dostałem:

"Hello,
Thank you because you have interested in my car and i`m glad because i can answer to you.
My last price is 2500Eur including all taxes,
The car have german papers with german plates numbers,
Like you can see in the pictures the car is in excellent condition, no accidents, no scratches, no dents, no need for additional repairs:
http://picasaweb.google.com/pictures...ey=R1tBbFpKvRs
I just moved out from Germany to UK, London and the car is here with me.That is the reason beacuse i don't need the car anymore because here in UK is very hard to drive an european car with the steering weel on the left side.
Like i told you i just moved out from Germany to UK, London and that is the reason beacuse i don't have a phone number by now,
So the only way that we can comunicate is trought the emails.
If you have others questions let me know,
Thanks."

Teraz widzę, że mail rodzynka poniżej jest identyczny. Zrezygnowałem z wyjazdu do Londynu, choć byłem już prawie spakowany

Postanowiłem odpowiedzieć na kolejną "cudowną ofertę". Prawie taka sama Bora full wypas za 2300euro!!!!! No po prostu lepiej sie nie dało trafić.
A oto co otrzymałem w odpowiedzi na mój mail:

"I am glad that you are interested in my car. First you need to know that's in perfect condition and hasn't been involved in any accident. I have all papers and also the maintenance history. The KM are real. The car is located in Germany. I live in UK. I've buy it when I've worked for Vodafone Germany. Now I've just moved back in UK and I don't need it anymore.(I need an UK car not an European one). If you decided to buy it, I will come in Germany to meet you and if you like it we can make the deal. I am the first owner.

Just reply if you are interested and we can arrange a meet in Germany. I can come anytime.

Thank You"
Chciałem podkreślić ze telefon podany na stronie nie istniał!!!
Ale to jeszcze nic!!!! Kolejny mail jaki otrzymałem od pana "a a" (tak podpisywał maile) prawie przekonał mnie do pojechania do Berlina na szczęście znalazłem to forum, dzięki któremu jestem parę tyś euro do przodu.
A oto co otrzymałem, kiedy napisałem, że jestem bardzo zainteresowany:

"Hello again,

I want you to read everything in order to understand what I propose!


As you already know, I live in London, UK and I have nobody in Germany that could show you the car. I need to come personal to meet you and present the car.

Few days ago a buyer told me that he'll buy the car, so we must meet in Germany. I came to Germany because I trusted his word, but when I arrived I called him and no answer, so I lost money and precious time on his promise. I don't want to ask you to send me any money in advance, I just want to see that you are a serious buyer. I will come only for a serious deal. If you don't want to buy it after you will inspect it, no problem, but I need to be sure that you will be there.


To be sure that you are real and serious, here is what I propose:


1. The service name that we'll use is western union transfers. You must find the nearest Western Union agency and you will go there with your best friend or your wife. Your wife or your friend will be the sender of the money and you will be the receiver in Berlin.(because is the location of the car).

2.Ask your wife or your friend to send 2300 Euro to your name in Berlin. Is enough for me too see that I have a interested buyer. (I will pay the western union fees when we will meet)
3. Only you can pick up the money from Berlin, so this is no risk on your side.
4. Once the money is sent, please email me or fax me western union papers.(Like this I can call to western union or check on their web page to verify and see that you have the money to your name)
5. In the same day I will buy the flight ticket and I will email you the scanned ticket.(We will verify the car with a mechanical service and at police to. I also accept any test)
6. We will meet in Germany and we will finish the deal. I will help you to make all papers and obtain temporary plates.

If you don't want to buy the car I will pay for your transport. I assure you that you will love this car and you will buy it. It is in perfect conditions.

I repeat: You must understand that you will not send the money to me. You will be the receiver of the money and only you can pick the money from Western Union only in Berlin.

Thank You"

PIĘKNIE, BEZPIECZNIE, CUDO!!!!
Moim zdaniem przesyłając im potwierdzenie, przesyłamy im swoje dane, na które ten typ może na fałszywe (nasze) papiery - dowód lub coś, odebrać za nas pieniądze w WU i jesteśmy bez kasy i bez auta.

A teraz rada NIE WIERZCIE W CUDA.
Nie da sie kupić auta w 1/3 jego realnej wartości. Ja sam bym się na tym przejechał (do Londynu bądź Berlina ) Wycieczka za 2500e.

Pozdrawiam i nie dajcie się oszukać.
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Old 28 April 2008, 14:17
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kiedy rozpoczynałem transakcje i wpisałem nazwę firmy i jakiekolwiek dane wówczas jeszcze nic nie znalazłem lub po prostu było to jakoś zablokowane. w momencie "zakończenia" transakcji znalazłem to forum i wszystko to co było dla mnie niejasne na dzień dzisiejszy jestem 3tys euro w plecy przestrzegam wszystkich przed takimi aukcjami- nikomu nie ufajcie....


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Item name: Volvo V40 1.9 D
Car price: 2,899.00 EUR
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Old 29 May 2008, 07:43
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Nie dajcie sie nabrac

Takze szukalam okazji i znalazlam sobie mercedesa. Nie mogac oczywiscie sie dodzwonic wyslalam maila. Na co otrzymalam odpowiedz oczywoscie z innego maila;
Hello,

The vehicle is in good condition, has no technical damage at all, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects, no smoking. It's fun and robust to drive. Technical inspection and emissions testing is passed and stamped as well.. It has title of ownership, cleared of any obligations or fees and comes with all the documents you need to register it.You will not have to pay additional taxes for this (VAT reclaimable).(the car is register in Germany and have german documents)

It's my personal car.I've listed the car under AutoPark Handler NAME so I can sell it faster.
I have worked in Germany for the last 1 year and I've purchased the car there.
My company wanted me back home, so currently I'm in England (UK). I've brought the car home with me and it's now located in London, England.

I've decided that it's better to sell it because I don`t use it anymore (the steering wheel is on left side and it' very difficult for me to drive it), it `s a pity to keep such a car and not to use it. It's listed in Germany because when i have posted the car on www.mobile.de and autoscout.de ,I had to use a German address.

Now I'm trying to sell it back for such a low price because next week I have a deadline term for paying those taxes.
I tried to sell the car in UK, but nobody want`s to buy a left side steering wheel car.

My car is already at the "http://car-transport-logistic.com" at their local representant.
(I PAID THIS COMPANY TO TAKE CARE FOR THIS TRANSACTION,THEY PROTECT INTERNET TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN BUYER AND SELLER).
We can have a deal if you are really interested to buy it.
The price is correct and it's not negotiable and it also include the transport for all European countries.
Please write me back to discuss only if you are interested because I am tired of people that ask questions and are not interested at all.

Regards,


Po paru mailach, uzgodnieniach sprzedawca nalegal, zebym podala mu swoje dane i on wysle mi auto. Wyslal mi takze wyjasnienie jak to bedzie dzialaC:

Hello,

I already signed a contract with http://car-transport-logistic.com and I paid all the taxes and I have no interested in loosing that kind of money.The car is ready to be sent to the buyer wich I'm waiting for at the moment.This is the only way and my only condition in this transaction.
(IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT THE TRANSACTION TERMS,PLEASE DO NOT INSIST WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS.)

Terms of the Transaction:
Here is how I want to go about delivery and payment for the car which will be through
"http://car-transport-logistic.com" and will also give you the chance to inspect the car before I receive the payment for it.I will explain to you step by step how this will work.

1)First you have to send me your shipping information (your name and address).

2)After I receive your shipping info, I'll go to at "http://car-transport-logistic.com" and leave the car into your name and with your address as the intended receiver.

3)"http://car-transport-logistic.com" will check the car ,also the legal papers to see that everything is OK with it.

4)You will receive a notification from "http://car-transport-logistic.com" as a confirmation that the car is in their custody and also,that the car has been tested.

5)After that, you will have to make deposit payment on the "http://car-transport-logistic.com" Departament and address , as a guarantee, and send the payment information to "http://car-transport-logistic.com".
( you must send a deposit of 50 % first and rest of the money 50% after you will receive the car)

6)"http://car-transport-logistic.com" will verify the payment, and if everything is in order, they will deliver the car to your door step.

7)After you will receive the car and you will be completely satisfied with it, you will instruct "http://car-transport-logistic.com" with your decision. You have 10 days to inspect it and take a decision.
If you don't keep it,they will refund back your deposit amount.

8)If by any reason, you will not be satisfy by the car,you will send back car to "http://car-transport-logistic.com" with no expense.I will not have any details of payment because they are confidentials.

Let me know if we can do this.


NOTE:
SHIPPING TIME: 5- 7 DAYS.
The money will be sent to Shipping Company before you will receive the car and not to me. I repeat they will keep your money until you receive the car and the documents of the car. You will have an inspection period of 10 days. In this time you can check, test and inspect the car. An EU Moving agent will be there to help you to register the car. If by any reason (the car has any hidden damage or it isn't like i describe it) you can reject the deal. In this case Shipping Company will refund you totally and they will ship the car back on MY cost.

The car was verified by the Shipping Company qualified automotive technician and the car have passed all the test with no problems.


You can Translate on: http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Wyslalam mu swoje dane i doslownie w pare sekund dostalam odpowiedz z tej firmy:

Dear Customer,

We want to inform you that the car is in the duane port and ready to be shipped to your location.The seller paid all taxes and fees of this transaction.Please complete the payment to our agent and after reply here with the payment details so we can deliver you the car.
We say this because the seller will pay some fees for which day when the car stay in our custody.
You can find Western Union Services in all major post offices or bank offices.

PS: When you go to the Western Union office them to wire the money, sometimes they ask you why you do that. If you tell them the money is for something you have bought, We will have to pay a very expensive tax for making commerce (VAT TAX) when we pick up the money. This is the part where we lose. If they ask you that, you can tell them the money is for a relative.(you can pay lower fees and close payment faster) We will appreciate!
Our company will return you all fees of the Western Union transfer when we deliver you the car!

Thank You
INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORT & LOGISTIC LIMITED
196 HIGH ROAD, WOOD GREEN
LONDON N22 8HH
United Kingdom
Tel. +44 7031 875046
www.car-transport-logistic.com
(Online Services)

Zaniepokilo mnie te przekazanie pieniedzy. Podobno wszystko pokrywa sprzedajacy, a tutaj oni beda musieli placic jakies podatki i ja mam niby zrobic cos, zeby oni mogli tego uniknac.
Po konsultacji ze znajomymi uznalismy, ze to poprostu oszustwo. Napisalam zarowno do firmy jak i sprzedajacego, ze nie wchodze jednak w ta transakcje. NA co dostalam odpowiedz od firmy:

Dear Customer,

Liars and only liars in this world.We hate people like you.We lost time and money for you.Go in hell.


Thank You

Mysle, ze zadna profesjonalna firma nie wyslalaby takiego maila do potencjalnego klienta i jeszcze mnie beszczelnie nazywaja oszustka, jakby sami oszustami nie byli

Sprzedawca posunal sie jeszcze dalej i wyslal mi taki beszczelny mail:

"ok, i hope your childs die soon"

Szczerze mowiac to mam pewien niesmak, ze podalam swoje dane. W koncu z normalnymi ludzi chyba nie pisalam. Ciesze sie ze nie wyslalam pieniedzy, a bylam juz tak blisko.

Pozdrawiam wszystkich kupujacych auta. My wszyscy szukamy aokazji, ale musimy pamietac ze prawie za darmo nikt nam nie odda porzadnego auta.
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is a FAKE-Escrow- or Transport-Site
Creation Date: 23-may-2008
The Phone-Number
Tel. +44 7031 875046
is a Forwarding-Phone-Number to anywhere.....

SAVE YOUR MONEY !!
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Old 24 June 2008, 09:58
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oszusci

To co sie wyprawia na mobile.de to tragedia. Na 20 wyslanych zapyutan dostalem 10 odpowiedzi, z czego 10 to oszusci (auto w UK itp.). Dobrze ze na was trafiłem
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Old 15 October 2008, 22:56
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Dzięki, bo prawie się nabrałem

Z ostatniej chwili

Na aukcji zawieszone jest Audi A3 w okazjonalnej cenie
http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/sh...l&pageNumber=1


Po wysłaniu kilku maili otrzymałem odpowiedź o bla, bla, że gość pracował w Niemczech, ale wrócił do Londynu ... zresztą wklejam to co otrzymałem

Hello,

I can let the price down to 14.500 EURO - all taxes included .
Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sportback quattro S line
EZ 4/2007
79.882km
The vehicle is in good condition, has no technical damage at all, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects, no smoking. It's fun and robust to drive. Technical inspection and emissions testing is passed and stamped as well.. It has title of ownership, cleared of any obligations or fees and comes with all the documents you need to register it.You will not have to pay additional taxes for this (VAT reclaimable).(the car is register in Germany and have german documents)
It's my personal car.I've listed the car under --- so I can sell it faster.
I have worked in germany for the last 1 year and I've purchased the car there.
My company wanted me back home, so currently I'm in England (UK). I've brought the car home with me and it's now located in Manchester, England.
I've decided that it's better to sell it because I don`t use it anymore (the steering wheel is on left side and it' very difficult for me to drive it), it `s a pity to keep such a car and not to use it.
Now I'm trying to sell it back for such a low price because next week I have a deadline term for paying those taxes.
I tried to sell the car in UK, but nobody want`s to buy a left side steering wheel car.
My car is already at the "www..escrow.com" at their local representant.
(I PAID THIS COMPANY TO TAKE CARE FOR THIS TRANSACTION,THEY PROTECT INTERNET TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN BUYER AND SELLER).
We can have a deal if you are really interested to buy it.
The price is correct and it's not negotiable and it also include the transport for all world-wide countries.
Please write me back to discuss only if you are interested because I am tired of people that ask questions and are not interested at all..
Regards,
YOU CAN Translate on: http://babelfish.altavista.com/


Kolejny mail z procedurą jak to będzie wyglądało.

Hello,

170 PS orginal soft - no chip or other extra stuff .I am in UK but i already signed a contract with www.escrow.com and I paid all the taxes and I have no interested in loosing that kind of money.The car is ready to be sent to the buyer wich I'm waiting for at the moment.This is the only way and my only condition in this transaction.
(IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT THE TRANSACTION TERMS,PLEASE DO NOT INSIST WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS.)
Terms of the Transaction:
Here is how I want to go about delivery and payment for the car which will be through
"www.escrow.com" and will also give you the chance to inspect the car before I receive the payment for it.I will explain to you step by step how this will work.
1)First you have to send me your shipping information (your name and address).
2)After I receive your shipping info, I'll go to at "www.escrow.com" and leave the car into your name and with your address as the intended receiver.
3)"www.escrow.com" will check the car ,also the legal papers to see that everything is OK with it.
4)You will receive a notification from "www.escrow.com" as a confirmation that the car is in their custody and also,that the car has been tested.
5)After that, you will have to make deposit payment 10% on the "www.escrow.com" Departament and address , as a guarantee, and send the payment information to "www.escrow.com".
6)"www..escrow.com" will verify the payment, and if everything is in order, they will deliver the car to your door step.
7)After you will receive the car and you will be completely satisfied with it, you will instruct "www.escrow.com" with your decision. You have 10 days to inspect it and take a decision.
If you don't keep it,they will refund back your deposit amount.
8)If by any reason, you will not be satisfy by the car,you will send back car to "www.escrow.com" with no expense.I will not have any details of payment because they are confidentials.
Let me know if we can do this.

NOTE:
SHIPPING TIME: 5- 7 DAYS.
The money will be sent to the Shipping Company before you will receive the car and not to me. I repeat they will keep your money until you receive the car and the documents of the car . You will have an inspection period of 10 days. In this time you can check, test and inspect the car. An EU Moving agent will be there to help you to register the car. If by any reason (the car has any hidden damage or it isn't like i describe it) you can reject the deal. In this case Shipping Company will refund you totally and they will ship the car back on MY cost.

The car was verified by the Shipping Company qualified automotive technician and the car have passed all the test with no problems.



Oszust "prawdopodobnie" to Andrew Cole [syytas@ymail.com].
Tekst ten sam co w opisywanym wcześniej przypadku zakupu Mercedesa
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Old 26 April 2009, 23:24
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Najnowszy oszust/autotrader 25/04/09

Witam. W sobote doslownie na kilka minut pojawilo sie ogloszenie o okazyjnek oferty sprzedazy Merecedesa klasy C 2003r, 220 diesel. Samochod znajduje sie w UK i ma kierownice z lewej strony...osoba podala 2 numery telefonow z ktorych zaden nie dzialal...po napisaniu maila dostalem odpowiedz:
Good Day,
I am writing you regarding the MERCEDES-BENZ C220 CDI Avantgarde (71000Miles - V5 Presents) the car it's still for sale.The car it's in perfect condition inside and outside as well,never been implicated in accidents.I never smoke in it and i want to sell it to a serious person. The car is located in London,UK.I have the full service history and the MOT will expire in Nov 2009.The price that i'm asking for the car is Ł3600.Now i am located in Ireland my work and i have nobody in United Kingdom that could show you the car. I need to come personal to meet you and present the car.Few days ago a buyer told me that he'll buy the car, so we must meet in United Kingdom. I came to London because I trusted his word, but when I arrived I called him and no answer, so I lost money and precious time on his promise.I don't want to ask you to send me any money in advance, I just want to see that you are a serious buyer. I will come only for a serious deal. If you don't want to buy it after you will inspect it, no problem, but I need to be
sure that you will be there.To be sure that you are real and serious, here is what I propose:
1. The service name that we'll use is western union transfers. You must find the nearest Western Union agency and you will go there with your best friend or your wife. Your wife or your friend (relative) will be the sender of the money and you will be the receiver in London.
2.Your wife or your friend to send Ł3600 to your name in London. Is enough for me too see that I have a interested buyer.
3. Only you can pick up the money from London, so this is no risk on your side.
4. Once the money is sent, you will have to email me or fax me western union papers.
5. In the same day I will buy the flight ticket and I will email you the scanned ticket.(We will verify the car with a mechanical service and at police to.)
6. We will meet in London and we will finish the deal. I will help you to make all papers.
7. Western Union will charge you 100 pounds to transfer the money(we will deducted that fee from the car price).
If you don't want to buy the car I will pay for your transport. I assure you that you will love this car and you will buy it. It is in perfect conditions.
I repeat: You must understand that you will not send the money to me. You will be the receiver of the money and only you can pick the money from Western Union in London.If you are still interested to make the deal with me please reply me or call me.Please don't spend my time with endless disscutions,or pure curiosity.
Thank you for contacting me and hope you will understand my point of view!!!
Respectfully

My Name: Schimt Muller
Phone number: 00447031899734
Haha kolejny oszust!!! Po skopiowaniu maila i wyszukaniu w google wyskoczyla mi stronka oszustow.... czy ktos zajmuje sie tego typu sprawami?
Bardzolatwo mozna sie dac nabrac!
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Subject: Re: Your Gumtree.com ad #41837492: !! LEFT HAND DRIVE !!2002 VOLKSWAGEN PASS

Kurde nie wiedziałem ze są takie przekręty.Już miałem wysyłać pieniądze.
Tego e-maila dostałem dzisiaj. Poprosilem typa o numer vin auta i numery rejstarcyjne zobaczymy czy odpisze


Hi,
As i have told you i sell this car because of the financial crisis i moved back to my home country in Italy and i brought the car in Italy with me and i will ship the car from Italy.

Here is how we will go about delivery and payment for the car which will be through a shipping company Express CDS and i will also give you the chance to receive and inspect the car before i receive the payment for it, like an escrow services.
We will use a shipment company Express CDS as a third party wich will guarantee to both of us a secure transaction.

Please visit the shipping company website : www.express-cds.it.tp

I will explain to you step by step how this will work.

- First you have to send me your full shipping information ( Full Name , Address , Phone number ).
- After I receive your shipping info, i'll go to a Express CDS location and leave the car on your name and with your address as the intended receiver.
- The shipping company will check the car, also the legal papers to see that everything is OK with them.
- You will receive a notification from the shipping company Express CDS as a confirmation that the vehicle is in their custody.
- After that, you will have to send the payment into Express CDS trust account and they will hold the payment until you will send your confirmation that you have received, inspected and you agreed to keep the car.
- The company will verify payment, and if everything is in order, they will bring the car to your place for inspection.
- After you will receive the car and you will be completely satisfied with it,then the company will transfer the money to me and the deal is closed.You can go to your mechanic for inspection to confirm you that the car is OK and to Police so they can tell you that the car it's not stolen or something like that.
- Also, you will have 5 days time to check the car and if by any reason, you will not be satisfied with the car, you will return the vehicle to Express CDS with no expense and the company will send all your money back but i am sure you'll love the car the day you'll get it. I will pay for shipping which will take only 4-5 working days.
Please give me a reply if you accept the deal in this way,and let me know asap so i can stop talking with my other clients.

Regards
James Carlton
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Old 26 August 2009, 20:34
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oszuści....

No niestety ja tez uwierzyłem i wysłałem pieniądze- połowę kasy jako zabezpieczenie. Na szczęście w porę trafiłem na tę stronę. Pani w banku, w którym wysyłałem kasę mocno się zdziwiła, ale zdążyła "odkrecić" przelew. Zapłaciłem koszty w wysokości 70 euro - odzyskałem 1700 euro.
Schemat podobny jak wyżej opisane...
CTP Spedition Inc.
47 BRUNSWICK PL
LONDON
LONDON N1 6EB
UNITED KINGDOM
www.ctp-spedition.uk.tt
oraz
Hendry Kai Ian
84 KENSINGTON HIGH STREET
LONDON , W8 4SG
TEL:00447807936430
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Exclamation Ten sam oszust co z otomoto

Uwaga!
Jest to ten sam oszust cop na OTOMOTO
http://otomoto.pl/index.php?sect=show&id=M1889980.
Ta sama gadka i ten sam styl pisania. Jest to duża szjka działajaca na terenie UK.
Nie kupujcie aut, motorów ani tez innych rzeczy nie widząc ich wczesniej bo skąd macie pewność, że one rzeczywiście istnieją!!
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XXXXX@gmail.com>
edu transport <edu-trans@hotmail.com> Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:27 PM
To: XXXXX@gmail.com
Dear XXXXX,
We can't wait so long for you to make the transfer because our client will pay extra money for every day of the
car custody. We choose another payment methos for this transaction.It is more fast and easy to use.
The payment method is Western Union Money Transfer . You must send the money to our agent from
London branche.
We 100% support this transaction trought this method.
Amount to transfer: 2,900 EURO
Manager name: Andrew Laudren
Addess: 37 Beaufort Garden
City: London
Zipcode: SW3 1PW
Country: United Kingdom
We are sorry for this situation !
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Dear,

Regarding the following details :

Shipping Details:
Item Description
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Autovehicle: Smart & passion cdi 3,5l
PURHASE PRICE: 2,900.00
INITIAL DEPOSIT: 2,900.00
CURRENCY: EUR
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Vehicle Tracking Number: 4MC81Z9AA1

You can track your package online here: http://www.edu-trans.eu.tf


We have received your scanned bank receipt !

The ETA - Estimated Time of Arrival is Saturday 19-06-2010 , 19:45 P.M.



Thank you for choosing EDU Transport !
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